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« on: April 24, 2012, 05:54:42 PM »
« edited: April 24, 2012, 05:57:04 PM by Politico »

Romney will surely do better than McCain among young adults if only because of economic conditions. Four years ago, Obama's youth brigade did not hope for "yes, we can" to transform into "yes, we can (live in our parents' basement forever)"
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2012, 10:02:38 PM »
« Edited: April 24, 2012, 10:07:00 PM by Politico »

Romney will surely do better than McCain among young adults if only because of economic conditions. Four years ago, Obama's youth brigade did not hope for "yes, we can" to transform into "yes, we can (live in our parents' basement forever)"

Wow, you're clever!

Alas, not as clever as the members of the Obama youth brigade who cannot find a quality job yet expect to find one at some point over the course of four more years of Obamanomics. Such quintessential cleverness cannot be denied!
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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2012, 10:08:45 PM »

If the youth of American want a future that is bright and prosperous, then Mitt Romney will be the candidate.

This, or perhaps they prefer four more years of "do you want fries with that?"
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 10:38:52 AM »

If the youth of American want a future that is bright and prosperous, then Mitt Romney will be the candidate.

This, or perhaps they prefer four more years of "do you want fries with that?"

Correct!

How's soixante-neuf? I wouldn't know.

Yeah, you might want to get that checked out.
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 12:18:31 PM »

Mittens should chat about how means-testless Obamacare jacks premiums up for the youngs to subsidize rich olds like Torie. The youngs seem to be in love with a man who is screwing them. Odd.

The youngs (<26) will be thrilled that, thanks to Obamacare, they can stay on their parents' insurance and that their parents' employers will be paying those premiums whereas before they were less likely to be able to get insurance at their entry level jobs.

Yes, we can (never find our own quality job with healthcare insurance)?
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 12:24:49 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2012, 12:28:49 PM by Politico »

Mittens should chat about how means-testless Obamacare jacks premiums up for the youngs to subsidize rich olds like Torie. The youngs seem to be in love with a man who is screwing them. Odd.

The youngs (<26) will be thrilled that, thanks to Obamacare, they can stay on their parents' insurance and that their parents' employers will be paying those premiums whereas before they were less likely to be able to get insurance at their entry level jobs.

Yes, and then the hammer drops after the election when the insurance premiums for those over 26 shoot up to keep mine at a "fair" rate. Oh, and I forgot to mention the debt thing with the attendant AWOL-ism of Obama on entitlement restructuring on a more means tested basis for the olds that the young will have to contend with as the debt service cost begins to eat the US budget alive when interest go up from their current near zero percent rate. Mittens should chat about that too - a lot. Hey, he should take a campuses tour!  Smiley

Yes, we can (fine 26+ year old young adults for not buying mandatory insurance because they cannot find employment to pay for it, but don't ask us how we expect them to pay the fines. I guess we will have to imprison them to enforce the mandate.)

Obama's America sounds more and more like the land of hope and dreams for America's youth!
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 12:30:04 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2012, 12:32:35 PM by Politico »

Yes, we can (fine 26+ year old young adults for not buying mandatory insurance because they cannot find employment)

We've gone from "the youngs" to "young people older than 26 who don't have employer-provided health insurance and don't want to go in the individual market, but have to." What share of the electorate is that? I bet Obama can afford to lose them.

Yes, we can (screw over a whole generation)?

Do you think the current "youngs" are never going to grow up? Four more years of Obamanomics, and a whole generation is lost. Like Torie said in so many words, a whole generation of young people are in love with a president whose policies are screwing them over, potentially for life.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2012, 12:34:56 PM »


Certainly you are voting against your own interests if you are otherwise.

Social Security is now set to run out of money in 2033. Sorry to be you I suppose!

Romney's promised increases in defense and tax cuts at the upper brackets will contribute greatly to Social Security's stability.

You haven't heard the good news that cutting my taxes creates jobs?

But the EVAL RICHEZ like you just stuff those tax cuts under your mattress!
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2012, 12:37:56 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2012, 12:41:23 PM by Politico »

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Yes, we can (screw over a whole generation)?

This is not clever. Please stop.

As for your other point, the youngs I know are thrilled to have the opportunity to have insurance through their parents or to be able to afford individual insurance which was not previously on offer except at exorbitant prices because of the adverse selection problem.

The youngs I know would like to find a halfway decent job once they are done college. I feel sorry for them if there is four more years of Obamanomics. The Obama Jobless "Recovery" is destroying the hopes and dreams of America. No, America can't afford four more years of Obama.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2012, 12:51:12 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2012, 01:01:45 PM by Politico »


The youngs I know would like to find a halfway decent job once they are done college. I feel sorry for them if there is four more years of Obamanomics. The Obama Jobless "Recovery" is destroying the hopes and dreams of America. No, America can't afford four more years of Obama.

You're right. We need to return to the successful "red" policies illustrated in this chart.



Yes, let's compare the start of a recession to the best of the Obama Jobless "Recovery." Or how about we compare the Obama Jobless "Recovery" to past (real) recoveries:



Trying to convince young people that this is what a healthy economy looks like is absurd. No wonder young people are losing faith in America.
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2012, 12:55:14 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2012, 01:00:24 PM by Politico »

Who was President in 2007 and 2008?

There you go again. The old "Blame Bush" routine. How did that work out for Democrats in 2010?

For the record, I supported Al Gore, John Kerry and Barack Obama. I am not proud of my past support, but it is there. I still like Barack's personality, but his record as president is not worthy of re-election. His economic philosophy, in particular, is a loser for America. I expected Bill Clinton, a pro-business/pro-free market Democrat, not Jimmy Carter. At least Barack got most things right on the foreign policy front, instead of being a complete failure like Carter, but it's not good enough.
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2012, 01:21:15 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2012, 01:26:34 PM by Politico »


Charts are just so much fun.  I mean it is not as if they prove any cause and effect by themselves. The Pub chart on this little topic will have two lines, one for a "normal" recovery from a deep recession, with the line up from the trough with a nice steep slope, and below it the Obama "recovery" line, with the kind of slope that I could run up on for about 3 miles without feeling any pain, and written above the next "best" thing to a flat line, would be written the word "stimulus." And oh percentages would be used, with a chart scaling to emphasize the point.

Yup. I was responding Politico's line about four years of Obamanomics etc., blah blah. The truth is the 2008-2009 recession was not a normal recession, induced by a demand or supply shock or by high interest rates, but was a different one requiring long-term delevering of, yes, too much debt by individuals. Recoveries from recessions like that are slow and painful because you can't juice demand through interest rates that are already at zero. Having government debt displace absent private debt to keep demand from falling through the floor and leading to a depression was the right thing to do, and the stimulus and auto restructuring contributed heavily to unemployment not being higher and the economy sinking into a tailspin.

The problem is that economic agents, whether we are talking about households or firms, are afraid of how the deficit will be taken care of down the road. They anticipate tax increases, rather than spending cuts, if Obama gets re-election. This is taming spending and hampering the recovery. Furthermore, Obamacare is a federal mandate gone too far. A health insurance mandate works for some states (e.g., Massachusetts) that wish to fund such a mandate, but it does not work for every state and should not have been forced upon every state. Romney recognizes this. Hopefully the Supreme Court will shoot Obamacare down. Of course, anticipated costs associated with Obamacare are hampering business and consumer confidence since tax increases are anticipated to pay for much of Obamacare.

I suspect this recovery would look more normal had Obamacare never been passed, had Obama not run around telling businesses how to do business, and had the Obama Administration spent the stimulus more prudently.

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Unlike Europe, we do not have a debt crisis. However, four more years of Obama is sure to lead to our own debt crisis. As Cameron put it earlier today, the solution to a debt crisis is not more debt. The UK has incurred a recession in the short-run to better their health in the long-run. It is the fiscal policy equivalent to Volcker's monetary policy in the late 70s/early 80s. Volcker tamed the inflation beast here and Cameron is taming the debt beast there. The UK is ultimately doing the right, but painful, thing for the UK. Obviously we do NOT want to be forced into the same corner as the UK, but we will have no choice if we continue four more years of Obamanomics.

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Paying public sector workers more than their counterparts in the private sector is unsustainable, not to mention unfair.
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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 09:17:55 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2012, 09:20:29 PM by Politico »


Certainly you are voting against your own interests if you are otherwise.

Social Security is now set to run out of money in 2033. Sorry to be you I suppose!

Romney's promised increases in defense and tax cuts at the upper brackets will contribute greatly to Social Security's stability.

You haven't heard the good news that cutting my taxes creates jobs? Mittens shouldn't talk much about foreign policy with the youngs actually.  He should just do that with that old former warrior Clarence in a soundproof room.  Tongue
Government can create a lot more jobs than you can as evidenced by the stimulus bill - it takes government $400,000 for one job, but how many millions does it take for Torie to create a job?

Torie's assistant earns more than $400,000, maybe even millions? Is Torie actually Steven Spielberg incognito?
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 09:26:23 PM »
« Edited: April 25, 2012, 09:35:25 PM by Politico »

It's very prudent for Romney to correctly strike a balance where he can compete for the votes of non-basement dwelling 25 year olds while still retaining a landslide majority of seniors.

The objective is simply to discourage the youngs from coming out to vote, not necessarily to win them over. Fortunately, the economy by itself is doing most of the heavy lifting on this front.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2012, 10:07:49 AM »
« Edited: April 26, 2012, 10:32:16 AM by Politico »


Certainly you are voting against your own interests if you are otherwise.

Social Security is now set to run out of money in 2033. Sorry to be you I suppose!

Romney's promised increases in defense and tax cuts at the upper brackets will contribute greatly to Social Security's stability.

You haven't heard the good news that cutting my taxes creates jobs? Mittens shouldn't talk much about foreign policy with the youngs actually.  He should just do that with that old former warrior Clarence in a soundproof room.  Tongue
Government can create a lot more jobs than you can as evidenced by the stimulus bill - it takes government $400,000 for one job, but how many millions does it take for Torie to create a job?

Torie's assistant earns more than $400,000, maybe even millions? Is Torie actually Steven Spielberg incognito?
No, but not every Torie will hire an assistant or contribute to the economy at all with the taxcut.

What do you think people do with their tax cuts? Withdraw it in the form of cash, and stuff it under a mattress to do nothing? No, of course not. People use their income to consume and/or invest. All else equal, this generally leads to further production/consumption, and economic/employment growth.

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Torie's assistant won't pay taxes to be used on infrastructure? Torie's assistant won't possibly donate to charities that help the poor?

By the way, what grand infrastructure projects have been created as a result of the Obama Stimulus? Do you think Solyandra is infrastructure? Do you think giving away billions to go unaccounted for at the state level (Thanks California/Illinois) is infrastructure?

Our infrastructure is not being rebuilt. Freeways are in rough shape across the nation. It seems to me, and many others, that tax dollars nowadays are mostly being wasted by overpaid bureaucrats whether we are talking about their salaries or the allocation of resources by them. Europe is proving that this shell game cannot go on forever.

There's a reason why America is the best. Some people want us to wither into a wimpy shade of our former self. Others like myself want America to continue being the best.
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2012, 04:59:15 PM »
« Edited: April 26, 2012, 08:53:40 PM by Politico »

You do realize that in order to invest in a particular nation abroad you generally have to trade American dollars for the foreign country's unit of currency, right? And do you know what happens to those American dollars you exchanged? Hint: Foreigners do something with them (No, they do not request cash to eat and light fires with)

As for the point about Romney's tax cuts, nobody said Romney is ONLY going to do tax cuts. Don't worry: Under the Romney Administration, bureaucratic apparatuses will either be useful and efficient, or they will be terminated. That's how Mitt rolls. If a federal worker does not like it, they can hit the bricks.

Hopefully things will go well, and a revitalization of Eisenhower's Interstate dream can take place. Freeways ought to be taken care of before the end of the decade if possible. They are a key part of our infrastructure, something that markets do not provide adequately, and they are starting to fall apart. So much for Barack's stimulus package remedying the situation...
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