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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« on: April 27, 2012, 08:38:36 AM »

Romney is certainly prepared to win Pennsylvania's electoral votes. Many wealthy SEPA individuals in areas like Gladwyne are quaking in fear at the idea of paying so much additional tax.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2012, 08:18:13 PM »
« Edited: April 27, 2012, 08:19:52 PM by krazen1211 »

Romney is certainly prepared to win Pennsylvania's electoral votes. Many wealthy SEPA individuals in areas like Gladwyne are quaking in fear at the idea of paying so much additional tax.

"Quaking in fear" at the possibility of taking the top two rates of income tax back to Clinton era levels of 36% and 39.6%, on individuals earning >200k and joint-filers earning >250k.


Romney is certainly prepared to win Pennsylvania's electoral votes. Many wealthy SEPA individuals in areas like Gladwyne are quaking in fear at the idea of paying so much additional tax.

"Quaking in fear" at the possibility of taking the top two rates of income tax back to Clinton era levels of 36% and 39.6%, on individuals earning >200k and joint-filers earning >250k

You forgot to tack on the additional taxes already presented by the Obamacare law, and the additional taxes proposed by the Buffett rule, and of course the additional taxes required by the Alternative Minimum Tax.

In addition, in other parts of the state, the rogue organization known as the EPA certainly has the same effect on many individuals affiliated with energy producing industry.

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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 12:28:39 PM »

Romney is certainly prepared to win Pennsylvania's electoral votes. Many wealthy SEPA individuals in areas like Gladwyne are quaking in fear at the idea of paying so much additional tax.

"Quaking in fear" at the possibility of taking the top two rates of income tax back to Clinton era levels of 36% and 39.6%, on individuals earning >200k and joint-filers earning >250k.


Romney is certainly prepared to win Pennsylvania's electoral votes. Many wealthy SEPA individuals in areas like Gladwyne are quaking in fear at the idea of paying so much additional tax.

"Quaking in fear" at the possibility of taking the top two rates of income tax back to Clinton era levels of 36% and 39.6%, on individuals earning >200k and joint-filers earning >250k

You can laugh (I suppose there is a level on which it is funny, though I don't appreciate the humor), but there are far more people motivated to turn out to stop taxes from returning to Clintonian levels than there are to return them to such a state. As a general rule, tax issues help Republicans.

Yes, of course. After the Democrats basically broke even with 6 figure voters in 2008, they lost them by landslide margins in 2010. Romney is undoubtedly counting on large margins among 6 figure voters and he can and will obtain then by defending them from higher tax.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2012, 05:06:33 PM »

Romney is certainly prepared to win Pennsylvania's electoral votes. Many wealthy SEPA individuals in areas like Gladwyne are quaking in fear at the idea of paying so much additional tax.

"Quaking in fear" at the possibility of taking the top two rates of income tax back to Clinton era levels of 36% and 39.6%, on individuals earning >200k and joint-filers earning >250k.


Romney is certainly prepared to win Pennsylvania's electoral votes. Many wealthy SEPA individuals in areas like Gladwyne are quaking in fear at the idea of paying so much additional tax.

"Quaking in fear" at the possibility of taking the top two rates of income tax back to Clinton era levels of 36% and 39.6%, on individuals earning >200k and joint-filers earning >250k

You can laugh (I suppose there is a level on which it is funny, though I don't appreciate the humor), but there are far more people motivated to turn out to stop taxes from returning to Clintonian levels than there are to return them to such a state. As a general rule, tax issues help Republicans.

Yes, of course. After the Democrats basically broke even with 6 figure voters in 2008, they lost them by landslide margins in 2010. Romney is undoubtedly counting on large margins among 6 figure voters and he can and will obtain then by defending them from higher tax.

I don't worship at the altar of supply-side given the extent to which the gross federal debt as a % of GDP spiralled upwards during the 'Eighties', falling back under Bill Clinton Smiley, who constrained the Reactionary Party's anti-tax jihadism, spiralling - AGAIN -from the 'Noughties'-to-present with President Obama having to compromise to secure support for the very folks needing it most - the unemployed. Those of you who believe that is a sustainable course can think again

"Pain" now - on those with the broadest shoulders - to avoid Smiley more pain, as much as anything, later. Take your pick. Or is the Reactionary Party agenda to crash the economy through austerity and pray for a strong recovery to follow? And the hell to those on the sh**tty end

Well, of course you don't. You want to redistribute money from others to Democratic voting chosen constituencies, and indeed, given the massive excess spending of the past few years, have succeeded. Barack Obama's budgets as a result show a massive permanent increase in the levels of government spending through the year 2021; its no wonder he abysmally failed at his promise to reduce the deficit to $650 billion by next year.

The spend now, less spend later tripe is about as serious as the charlotte bobcats.


But these types of voters in places like Gladwyne don't benefit from your handouts, and your circular thinking isn't going to make them want to pay more tax. Sorry.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 06:03:05 PM »


No but they benefit more from a prosperous middle class and on that, given Dumbya's record, the Reactionary Party knows  all about



Unfortunately for you, Obama (unlike Clinton) isn't about a prosperous middle class. Incomes have shrunk and poverty has skyrocketed during his administration.

People like you don't like those facts, but people in Gladwyne aren't likely to care about that.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 06:10:11 PM »


No but they benefit more from a prosperous middle class and on that, given Dumbya's record, the Reactionary Party knows  all about


Unfortunately for you, Obama (unlike Clinton) isn't about a prosperous middle class. Incomes have shrunk and poverty has skyrocketed during his administration.

People like you don't like those facts, but people in Gladwyne aren't likely to care about that.

Perhaps had Dumbya bult on the Clinton legacy of prosperity, low unemployment and solvent government ... I doubt very much the US economy would have hit the crappers to the extent that it did Wink

Well, when you don't have facts, you make up a baseless hypothetical. Shrug. Congrats on convincing yourself.

Perhaps the voters will seek to continue to Obama record of poverty, shrinking incomes, money tossed to Democratic special interests, and insolvent government. Perhaps not.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 07:12:28 AM »
« Edited: May 01, 2012, 07:15:47 AM by krazen1211 »


No but they benefit more from a prosperous middle class and on that, given Dumbya's record, the Reactionary Party knows  all about


Unfortunately for you, Obama (unlike Clinton) isn't about a prosperous middle class. Incomes have shrunk and poverty has skyrocketed during his administration.

People like you don't like those facts, but people in Gladwyne aren't likely to care about that.

Perhaps had Dumbya bult on the Clinton legacy of prosperity, low unemployment and solvent government ... I doubt very much the US economy would have hit the crappers to the extent that it did Wink

Well, when you don't have facts, you make up a baseless hypothetical. Shrug. Congrats on convincing yourself.

Perhaps the voters will seek to continue to Obama record of poverty, shrinking incomes, money tossed to Democratic special interests, and insolvent government. Perhaps not.

As opposed to Republican records of poverty, shrinking incomes, money tossed to Republican special interests, and insolvent government, or as opposed to some mythical antelapsarian state that you believe held sway before January three years ago, perhaps through some sort of political application of the omphalos hypothesis?

If you recall, that statistical record led to the election of a Democratic President. Are you expecting the mirror outcome 4 years later?

DemocraticHawk's position of course seems to describe all 6 figure voters as a Republican special interest. I can agree and live with that as it will lead to another landslide victory by the Republican party among these voters.
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2012, 12:31:39 PM »

Speaking of which, here we go. Wealthy people in Gladwyne are very eager to support Mitt Romney to safeguard themselves from higher tax.

http://mainlinemedianews.com/articles/2012/05/01/main_line_times/news/doc4fa07fee48681475319486.txt



Of course many of these people were Obama voters last time around. Not anymore!
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krazen1211
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2012, 04:29:45 PM »

Incidentally, I'd like to mention that I've been to this Gladwyne place that krazen keeps talking about. It's a hellhole. Not that that either strengthens or diminishes its voting strength in any way, but there's a certain small comfort of aesthetic-moral vindication in that, I think.


Err, what? Gladwyne is a beautiful place. People want to live there and they pay a lot of money to do so.
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