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« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2012, 08:27:55 am »
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« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2012, 01:48:47 am »
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Result of round 11

Andrę 2
Neergaard 1

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Round 12

Eliminate 3 PMs by voting 3-2-1

My votes:

Neergaard 3
Berntsen 2
Hartling 1

The two remaining 19th century guys are not the best from that periode, but I feel like saving them for now.
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« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2012, 02:56:35 am »
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Hartling 3
Neergaard 2
Berntsen 1
I totally agree. Get rid of those.
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« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2012, 08:11:56 am »
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2 Neergaard
1 Holstein-Ledreborg
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« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2012, 08:27:51 am »
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Hartling 2
Berntsen 1
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« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2012, 10:02:14 am »
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Result of round 12:

Neergaard 10
Hartling 6
Berntsen 4

Nyrup 3
Holstein-Ledreborg 1

Neergaard, Hartling and Berntsen eliminated.

Round 13, normal round:

My vote: Holstein-Ledreborg

Despite all his qualities, he was a short termer after all.
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« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2012, 02:06:20 pm »
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« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2012, 02:19:25 pm »
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« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2012, 06:43:56 pm »
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« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2012, 02:12:36 am »
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Result of round 13:

Holstein-Ledreborg eliminated unanimously.

Round 14:

Eliminate 1 PM before WW2 and 1 PM after the war.

My votes go to two guys, who failed to achieve their political projects and alienated large parts of their party in the process. This sets them apart from the remaining 10 PMs who were generally successful.

Before:

Tage Reedtz-Thott
Tried to reach a compromise between Liberals and Conservatives, but failed. Splitting his party in warring factions, which ultimately led to its demise. Had the right policies, but failed to deliver.

Knud Kristensen
I kinda like "Black Knud", who was the archtypical maverick, who never bowed to the establishment, kept speaking his heavy jutlandic dialect and excelled in one-liners. But he wasnt succesful and has to go before the final stage of the game.

His main project was a referendum in Southern Sleswick to capitalize on the change of national identity among the locals after the German defeat and get the border moved southwards. An idea that was rejected by almost all others in the political  establishment - including half his own party - who feared that the change of heart among the starving and disillusioned population was temporary and would backfire later on when Germany regained its strength.  Actually since the Germans lost so much territory in the east, they wouldn't have cared about a few square kilometers in Sleswick, and the territory gained would have been more or less Danish speaking today because of immigration from DK. So it could have worked, but KK failed to convince his own party and the Conservatives, lost power to the Social Democrats after only two years, and had to leave his party to form a right wing splinter group, that never got off the ground. Hardly a success!

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« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2012, 12:04:26 pm »
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« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2012, 08:05:29 pm »
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« Reply #62 on: May 19, 2012, 03:46:26 am »
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Result of round 14:

Before WW2

Reedtz-Thott 2
Holstein-Holsteinsborg 1

After WW2

Knud Kristensen 3

Reedtz-Thott and Knud Kristensen are eliminated.


Round 15:

We now have 10 guys left who were all pretty capable. There is a concentration of PMs in the 50s and 60s (Hedtoft, Eriksen, Hansen, Krag, Baunsgaard), this was also the era where the full scale universal welfare state was build, so any evaluation of this period depends on how you view that particular social model.

The objective choice for the next elimination is Holstein-Holsteinsborg, but in order not to eradicate the 19th century guys all together - or throw out the one remaining liberal (Eriksen) - Ill vote Hans Hedtoft.
The weakest of the 5 remaining Social Democrats (all though far the most likable IMO). Lost power in 1950. Failed to accomplish his big project of a Nordic defence alliance as an alternative to Danish NATO membership (an impossible idea because of Norways interests).

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« Reply #63 on: May 19, 2012, 05:26:50 am »
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« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2012, 06:28:26 am »
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« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2012, 10:33:41 am »
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« Reply #66 on: May 20, 2012, 02:52:45 am »
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Result of round 15:

Hedtoft 2
Holstein-Holsteinsborg 2

Holstein-Holsteinsborg eliminated after coin toss. Only 20th century guys left, but since the two most capable 19th century PMs (Frijs and Estrup) has already been eliminated, that's no great loss.

Round 16:

Hans Hedtoft

The two one-termers are the obvious alternatives. Both decent guys, that just couldn't hang on to power in the SD heyday.

Eriksen managed to build a coalition with the Liberal party's old rivals, the Conservative Peoples Party, for the first time and was the driving force behind our present 1953 constitution, but lost power to the SD after just one term, never to regain it in his long leadership term.

Baunsgaard: Charmer, good on TV, managed to more than double the size of his party and form a centre-right alliance with the Liberals and Conservatives, but then overplayed his hand. Abolished abortion, legalized porn and increased taxes 50% in three years to expand the public welfare sector.
Not what voters had expected from a centre-right coalition and the government was thrown out after just one term. Ironically replaced by SD - big government party par excellence.

Since Baunsgaard was a social liberal, he was essentially just following party line and highly successful in persuading Conservatives to support his views, but the sheer pace of his actions laid the foundation for the right wing populist backlash in 1973 and his idea of forming a stable centre-right alternative to the SD (with his own party as the leading force) was a failure. 
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« Reply #67 on: May 20, 2012, 03:37:53 am »
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« Reply #68 on: May 20, 2012, 07:25:24 am »
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« Reply #69 on: May 20, 2012, 07:44:52 pm »
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« Reply #70 on: May 20, 2012, 07:58:17 pm »
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« Reply #71 on: May 21, 2012, 02:09:56 am »
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Result of round 16

Hans Hedtoft 3
Erik Eriksen 2

Hedtoft eliminated.

Round 17, normal round

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« Reply #72 on: May 21, 2012, 09:41:07 am »

Really should have voted here from the beginning, it's a fine survivor Sad
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« Reply #74 on: May 21, 2012, 08:01:44 pm »
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E: -6.06 -> -6.97 -> -6.97 -> -8.13 -> -7.29 -> -8.26 -> -8.65 -> -7.03
S: -6.78 -> -6.09 -> -7.30 -> -7.13 -> -8.09 -> -8.35 -> -9.04 -> -8.61
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