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Pingvin99
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Russia General Megathread
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April 26, 2012, 02:41:50 am »
Lets start with a completely ridiculous sh*t.
"Do you think that we arrive somewhere in someone else's place, and we believe that we are at home. You may be wrong, but we are at home. And we will establish the rules that suit us, you want it or no. Any attempt to change this obolyutsya blood - there will be a second dead lake. We fill the city with blood. We will expand this network to the size of the Arab Caliphate. All Muslims should be united. I think that Russia should give us that opportunity "
Dagir Hasavov, who is assistant chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Social Policy and Public Health.
ROC liked the idea of "Moscow fill with blood" - it supports the establishment of sharia courts
Novye Izvestia "wrote that the Russian Orthodox Church supported the intention of Hasavov. Chairman of the Synodal Department for Church and Society of the Moscow Patriarchate Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin told the newspaper that "the monopoly of non-religious people on the right goes to the past", and allow communities to live by their rules is permissible, provided that those rules "will not be imposed externally." According to Archpriest Chaplin, Sharia courts have long existed in North Caucasus republics, as well as "on a semi-underground level" are in Moscow. There may be in Russia and the Orthodox church courts, similar existed before the revolution ("Archpriest Chaplin, supported the establishment of sharia courts in the capital").
Information for Media
April 25, 2012 15:51
The Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation is studying an entry interview with the lawyer Dagira Hasavov given to them on the eve of one of the central TV channels, for the presence of incitement to ethnic hatred and signs of extremism. With the subsequent procedural assessment.
The relevant instructions have been issued by the Ministry of specialist departments relevant departments.
Press center of the Russian Interior Ministry
http://www.mvd.ru/news/show_105006/
04/25/2012
General of the Russian Federation organized by the inspection in connection with a public statement about the revival of sharia courts for extremism
Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation commissioned a public prosecutor of Moscow to organize test contained in the TV reports information on their compliance with the law on countering extremist activity and there are reasons to take action prosecutorial response.
Federal Service for Supervision of Communications, Information Technology and Communications are also requested to check compliance with the law prohibiting the use of media for the dissemination of extremist statements by placing the title of the plot.
In the General Procuracy of the Russian Federation, the fulfillment of these orders is taken under control.
http://www.genproc.gov.ru/news/news-75817/
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Re: Russia General Megathread
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http://ttolk.ru/?p=10617
All but 3 of the 200 wealthiest man in Russia stole their way to the top.
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Quote from: Senator Seatown on April 26, 2012, 04:20:49 am
http://ttolk.ru/?p=10617
All but 3 of the 200 wealthiest man in Russia stole their way to the top.
OK. First I saw the title, "Jews and Ukrainians are movers of capitalism", which struck me as somewhat racist, being an Ashkenazi whose parents were born in Kiev. Then I scrolled down and saw this photo:
http://ttolk.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2.jpg
What the fuсk?
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April 26, 2012, 11:28:29 am »
Russia is very anti-semitic even now.
Russian Foreign Ministry supports "Palestine" every way they can.
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April 26, 2012, 12:25:45 pm »
Quote from: Vosem on April 26, 2012, 05:54:22 am
Quote from: Senator Seatown on April 26, 2012, 04:20:49 am
http://ttolk.ru/?p=10617
All but 3 of the 200 wealthiest man in Russia stole their way to the top.
OK. First I saw the title, "Jews and Ukrainians are movers of capitalism", which struck me as somewhat racist, being an Ashkenazi whose parents were born in Kiev. Then I scrolled down and saw this photo:
http://ttolk.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2.jpg
What the fuсk?
Many of the oligarchs, especially the original Yetsin era ones, are Jewish. So even if it has a racist slant, it is not
wrong
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Re: Russia General Megathread
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April 26, 2012, 06:07:51 pm »
Quote from: Vosem on April 26, 2012, 05:54:22 am
Quote from: Senator Seatown on April 26, 2012, 04:20:49 am
http://ttolk.ru/?p=10617
All but 3 of the 200 wealthiest man in Russia stole their way to the top.
OK. First I saw the title, "Jews and Ukrainians are movers of capitalism", which struck me as somewhat racist, being an Ashkenazi whose parents were born in Kiev. Then I scrolled down and saw this photo:
http://ttolk.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2.jpg
What the fuсk?
Banana Republic? The ethnicity break down is really a pointless excercise and you could say that it's hard to determine if the author is actually racist((s)he definitely gives that vibe, but I didn't see any outright racist statements in there after I skimmed the article), but I just wanted to point out how illegitimate the wealth of the oligarchs is in Russia, which is pretty important when discussing Russia. You would probably get similar results in US, but with slightly more people getting rich fairly and a few of the billionaires inheriting their parents fortunes.
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April 26, 2012, 06:14:48 pm »
Quote from: This is my world. You are not welcome in my world. on April 26, 2012, 11:28:29 am
Russia is very anti-semitic even now.
Russian Foreign Ministry supports "Palestine" every way they can.
Russia is more anti-muslim/Middle Eastern/Central Asian than it is anti-semitic. Anti-Ukrainian is probably the biggest sentiment though.
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Re: Russia General Megathread
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April 26, 2012, 06:35:26 pm »
This thread needs an urgent dose of ag.
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Re: Russia General Megathread
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April 26, 2012, 07:16:29 pm »
Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on April 26, 2012, 06:35:26 pm
This thread needs an urgent dose of ag.
Did I say something that's incorrect? I just thought that I should put the oligarchs on the first page since that's what defines politics today in Russia.
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Re: Russia General Megathread
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April 26, 2012, 08:40:51 pm »
Quote from: Senator Seatown on April 26, 2012, 06:14:48 pm
Quote from: This is my world. You are not welcome in my world. on April 26, 2012, 11:28:29 am
Russia is very anti-semitic even now.
Russian Foreign Ministry supports "Palestine" every way they can.
Russia is more anti-muslim/Middle Eastern/Central Asian than it is anti-semitic. Anti-Ukrainian is probably the biggest sentiment though.
Oh, yeah, "luchshe byt' zhidom, chem khokhlom"
)
Though, do you know the old joke about a Ukrainian's reaction to the "Bey zhidov - spasaj Rossiju" poster?
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Quote from: Senator Seatown on April 26, 2012, 06:07:51 pm
You would probably get similar results in US, but with slightly more people getting rich fairly and a few of the billionaires inheriting their parents fortunes.
Remember the quotation Ostap Bender found for the benefit of Koreiko about this?
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Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on April 26, 2012, 06:35:26 pm
This thread needs an urgent dose of ag.
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Re: Russia General Megathread
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April 27, 2012, 01:28:20 am »
http://rusnovosti.ru/news/199728/
Dagir Hasavov had left Russia.
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Re: Russia General Megathread
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Quote from: This is my world. You are not welcome in my world. on April 27, 2012, 01:28:20 am
http://rusnovosti.ru/news/199728/
Dagir Hasavov had left Russia.
off-topic: Some of the links there are disturbing. A 6-legged kid born from inbreeding - yellow press.
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Quote from: ag on April 26, 2012, 08:40:51 pm
Quote from: Senator Seatown on April 26, 2012, 06:14:48 pm
Quote from: This is my world. You are not welcome in my world. on April 26, 2012, 11:28:29 am
Russia is very anti-semitic even now.
Russian Foreign Ministry supports "Palestine" every way they can.
Russia is more anti-muslim/Middle Eastern/Central Asian than it is anti-semitic. Anti-Ukrainian is probably the biggest sentiment though.
Oh, yeah, "luchshe byt' zhidom, chem khokhlom"
)
Though, do you know the old joke about a Ukrainian's reaction to the "Bey zhidov - spasaj Rossiju" poster?
No I don't remember, but google says this "идея хороша... да цель безумна".
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Quote from: Senator Seatown on April 27, 2012, 03:04:42 am
Quote from: ag on April 26, 2012, 08:40:51 pm
Quote from: Senator Seatown on April 26, 2012, 06:14:48 pm
Quote from: This is my world. You are not welcome in my world. on April 26, 2012, 11:28:29 am
Russia is very anti-semitic even now.
Russian Foreign Ministry supports "Palestine" every way they can.
Russia is more anti-muslim/Middle Eastern/Central Asian than it is anti-semitic. Anti-Ukrainian is probably the biggest sentiment though.
Oh, yeah, "luchshe byt' zhidom, chem khokhlom"
)
Though, do you know the old joke about a Ukrainian's reaction to the "Bey zhidov - spasaj Rossiju" poster?
No I don't remember, but google says this "идея хороша... да цель безумна".
I prefer: "yako harne dilo, yaka zh pohana tsel'" (sorry for my Ukrainian
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Re: Russia General Megathread
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April 27, 2012, 12:23:36 pm »
ag are you an "old" btw(in American sense)? Also do you know who are olds and youngs in Russia today? I am really dissapointed at the fact that somewhat youngs(families with young kids) started going to church more often now, but I guess that's to be expected. When I was growing up there was a pretty deep divide between really olds and everyone else, because the olds would hang out on lavochkas and quarrel while consuming sunflower seeds and obviously vote communist. I'd be interested to know about the more nuanced generational differences in Russia that I couldn't observe as a kid.
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Quote from: Senator Seatown on April 27, 2012, 12:23:36 pm
ag are you an "old" btw(in American sense)? Also do you know who are olds and youngs in Russia today? I am really dissapointed at the fact that somewhat youngs(families with young kids) started going to church more often now, but I guess that's to be expected. When I was growing up there was a pretty deep divide between really olds and everyone else, because the olds would hang out on lavochkas and quarrel while consuming sunflower seeds and obviously vote communist. I'd be interested to know about the more nuanced generational differences in Russia that I couldn't observe as a kid.
I am not ag, but i live in Russia and "old" enough (55). So - my "2 cents".. Few old people still hang out on lavochkas and so on, but many of them still vote communist. Most of the other - vote for Putin and his "United Russia", being grateful to authorities even for the crumbs they have. Youth doesn't spend time on "lavochkas" too, and usually don't vote at all...
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Well now the great leader has been sworn in...
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Re: Russia General Megathread
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http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2012/05/14/n_2341397.shtml
Looks like he didn't meet the vote quota for the Putin, so he got sacked.
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Quote from: Senator Seatown on May 16, 2012, 11:53:53 pm
http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2012/05/14/n_2341397.shtml
Looks like he didn't meet the vote quota for the Putin, so he got sacked.
More then typical situation here in Russia)))
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So, what do you people think 'bout recent changes in the protest regulation?
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Quote from: Senator Seatown on May 16, 2012, 11:53:53 pm
Looks like he didn't meet the vote quota for the Putin, so he got sacked.
Kremlin changed many governors in last months in order to delay direct gubernatorial elections in their regions.
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Forgive my ignorance, but does the opposition stand much chance of getting anywhere, or is Putin pretty well entrenched for the next decade+?
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Quote from: Mr. Morden on May 18, 2012, 09:11:29 pm
Forgive my ignorance, but does the opposition stand much chance of getting anywhere, or is Putin pretty well entrenched for the next decade+?
In non-democracies this is a very hard question to answer. He may stay there for 30 years, or he may be asking for an asylum in the German embassy tomorrow. Nobody knows, really.
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