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Question: Is it OK to eat dog meat?
Yes   -22 (45.8%)
Yes, but only if you are in country where its normal   -10 (20.8%)
No - only hotdogs   -12 (25%)
Other (specify)   -2 (4.2%)
Dunno   -2 (4.2%)
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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2012, 05:18:52 am »
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Wow, there are actually people emotionally invested in this?


Why wouldn't there be?
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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2012, 05:23:21 am »
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Why wouldn't there be?

Because frankly I can't think of one reason people eating dogs would be offensive. People eat rabbits. Bunnies are cute. People still eat rabbits (and they don't even taste all that nice).
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« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2012, 05:35:21 am »
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Why wouldn't there be?

Because frankly I can't think of one reason people eating dogs would be offensive. People eat rabbits. Bunnies are cute. People still eat rabbits (and they don't even taste all that nice).

Dogs aren't anything like rabbits so the comparison doesn't make sense. Have you ever owned a dog or do you know anyone who owns a dog? If someone who owns a dog decided to cook and eat it, would you find this to be normal?

Well, you don't keep pets to eat them. Some people have a pet pig (and pigs are more intelligent than dogs, etc. etc.). Should we stop eating pork? I can see why you would have some reservations about eating dogs yourself. I personally don't like qualis because they look like someone commited a bird massacre on your plate. Still, I'm not offended by other people eating quails.
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2012, 05:44:07 am »
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Because frankly I can't think of one reason people eating dogs would be offensive. People eat rabbits. Bunnies are cute. People still eat rabbits (and they don't even taste all that nice).

Dogs aren't anything like rabbits so the comparison doesn't make sense. Have you ever owned a dog or do you know anyone who owns a dog? If someone who owned a dog decided to cook and eat it, would you find this to be normal?
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« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2012, 05:44:24 am »
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I love dogs and I don't think I'd ever voluntarily eat one.

Yet, speaking on Obama story, we should keep in mind that it took place in a country, where eating dogs is very usual. Also, he was a pre-teen, who was given a dog meat by his stepfather. Therefore, I'm not going to condemn him for this.
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« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2012, 05:45:12 am »
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Because frankly I can't think of one reason people eating dogs would be offensive. People eat rabbits. Bunnies are cute. People still eat rabbits (and they don't even taste all that nice).

Dogs aren't anything like rabbits so the comparison doesn't make sense. Have you ever owned a dog or do you know anyone who owns a dog? If someone who owns a dog decided to cook and eat it, would you find this to be normal?

Well, you don't keep pets to eat them. Some people have a pet pig (and pigs are more intelligent than dogs, etc. etc.). Should we stop eating pork? I can see why you would have some reservations about eating dogs yourself. I personally don't like qualis because they look like someone commited a bird massacre on your plate. Still, I'm not offended by other people eating quails.

I think the idea that pigs are smarter than dogs is pretty debatable. But as for the question, yes, you should stop eating pork. I did.
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« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2012, 05:51:13 am »
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I love dogs and I don't think I'd ever voluntarily eat one.

Yet, speaking on Obama story, we should keep in mind that it took place in a country, where eating dogs is very usual. Also, he was a pre-teen, who was given a dog meat by his stepfather. Therefore, I'm not going to condemn him for this.

Oh, I basically give Obama a pass on it too. He was a young child at the time and was being given various meats to eat by an adult. I knew about the story before I voted for him in '08.

It's only been dredged up by Republicans to distract people from W. Mitt Romney, the adult dog torturer.
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« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2012, 09:59:48 am »
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Ethically? Sure, it's fine if your ethics allow eating pigs and whatnot, given the comparable level of intelligence. I wouldn't want to eat one personally, though, given the cultural norms that have been instilled upon me.

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« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2012, 10:19:37 am »
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I don't see how you can make any logical argument that eating pigs (or any animal, really, but pigs are known to be very intelligent) is okay but eating dogs isn't, sentimentality aside.

I mean, look, I had a pet dog for many years. I'm not saying I'd have killed and eaten it. Of course I wouldn't. But if I had a pet pig (some people do!) I'd be similarly appalled at the idea.

I don't think it's really morally justified to eat dogs, no, but I don't think it's morally justified to eat any animal. I still do it, though, because I don't care enough to conciously change my diet. That sounds horrible, but I'd imagine it's true for a lot of people.
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« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2012, 10:42:04 am »
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I don't see how you can make any logical argument that eating pigs (or any animal, really, but pigs are known to be very intelligent) is okay but eating dogs isn't, sentimentality aside.

There is a logical argument to be made for not raising carnivores for food.  Wild carnivores because of their position near the top of the food chain are problematic because environmental toxins get concentrated in them.  Pigs are better, but their dietary habits do make them less desirable food animals than pure herbivores such as kine and sheep.
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« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2012, 11:06:26 am »
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I love all of the "enlightened" people voting "yes" on this...

If you want to eat dog meat, just don't do it by me, unless you feel like picking up your teeth from the floor.

If you did such a violence at the dog-restaurant where I partook in Saigon, you would probably be ejected. 
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« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2012, 11:21:45 am »
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Why does the whole talk about dogs and pigs suddenly remind me of that restaurant scene from Pulp Fiction? Tongue

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Vincent: Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?

Jules: Well, we'd have to be talkin' about one charming motherf**king pig. I mean, he'd have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm saying.
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Jules: Well, we'd have to be talkin' about one charming mothering pig. I mean, he'd have to be ten times more charming than that Arnold on Green Acres, you know what I'm saying.

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« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2012, 02:29:28 pm »
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Carnivorous mammals never taste good.  Herbivores are delicious.  Not sure why.  It doesn't work like this with fish, reptiles, birds, etc, but for mammals you want to eat only the herbivores.

If you're ever on an airplane and it crashes into a mountain and you have to survive in the frozen, high-altitude condition for a long time with no food stored, be sure to find out who's a vegetarian and who's not before people start dying off.

Anyway, I voted Yes.  Eat whatever you want.
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« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2012, 02:34:53 pm »
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I love all of the "enlightened" people voting "yes" on this...

If you want to eat dog meat, just don't do it by me, unless you feel like picking up your teeth from the floor.

If you did such a violence at the dog-restaurant where I partook in Saigon, you would probably be ejected. 

Oh well, I'm sure that would have been heartbreaking!
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I don't see how you can make any logical argument that eating pigs (or any animal, really, but pigs are known to be very intelligent) is okay but eating dogs isn't, sentimentality aside.

I mean, look, I had a pet dog for many years. I'm not saying I'd have killed and eaten it. Of course I wouldn't. But if I had a pet pig (some people do!) I'd be similarly appalled at the idea.

I don't think it's really morally justified to eat dogs, no, but I don't think it's morally justified to eat any animal. I still do it, though, because I don't care enough to conciously change my diet. That sounds horrible, but I'd imagine it's true for a lot of people.

Thank you; this is my position exactly.
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« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2012, 02:09:45 am »

Probably not my thing, but whatever.

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« Reply #43 on: April 28, 2012, 01:52:30 pm »
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No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)
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« Reply #44 on: April 28, 2012, 03:21:05 pm »
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I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

While they are not obligate carnivores who can eat only meat, dogs prefer meat in their diet, and the more active they are, the more they need meat with its easily digested nutrients.

Pigs are omnivores as well, but they can more easily subsist on a herbivorous diet.
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« Reply #45 on: April 28, 2012, 03:27:48 pm »
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I'd be more interested in trying cat sometime (no, this is not a sexual reference.)
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« Reply #46 on: April 28, 2012, 03:32:08 pm »

No. It goes against the sacred covenant we have with the canine species. We have coexisted for thousands of years, and they have been domesticated. They are "man's best friend". Some cultures have gone astray from this covenant, but that doesn't make eating them okay. Pigs are just as smart as dogs of course, but no covenant exists with them. They have been bred for food. Dogs have not.

I also like the inefficient argument. Why eat another carnivore (actually, aren't dogs omnivores?)

Sacred covenant?  Also, re: inefficiency, you might as well turn that into a case for vegetarianism.
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« Reply #47 on: April 28, 2012, 03:33:43 pm »
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There's a pretty huge difference between eating your pet dog and eating dog meat from a farm of dogs specifically bread to be fattened up, slaughtered and eaten.
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« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2012, 04:57:30 pm »
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I'd be more interested in trying cat sometime (no, this is not a sexual reference.)

Ugh, now that is a meat that I can't imagine tasting anything other than wholly disgusting.
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« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2012, 05:21:17 pm »
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Eating a dog is akin to eating a family member.  Having had one for nearly 15 years, I know they are more than just pets.  And I am disgusted that so many voted 'yes'. 

Meh, you can just substitute dog for any animal here. I wouldn't eat a dog personally, but don't have a problem with others eating it. I mean, that's just a no-brainer. There are a bunch of people out there who are "disgusted" by you eating a cow or a pig.

Once when I was in the northeast of India, in the hills where the people have a culture very similar to Burma and are not like the rest of India at all, we saw a dead wild pig being transported in the back of a car. My family saw that and got disgusted, and the driver (who for some reason tend to be the most classist/casteist types) commented that "these people eat just about everything..pig, cow, dog". I found putting eating cows, pigs and dogs on the same level to be highly amusing.
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