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Birther vs 9/11 Truther
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who wins the election?
9/11 Truther
10 (43.5%)
Birther
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Vermin Supreme
Henry Clay
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Birther vs 9/11 Truther
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Birther profile: Former talk show radio host. Has been involve with conservatives organizations such as Heritage Foundation and Club for Growth. Best buds with the Koch Brothers. Campaign with Scott Walker in his home state of Wisconsin in 2010. Was a delegate for George H.W. Bush in 1988 but supported Pat Buchanan instead in 1992 and Robert Dornan in 1996. Other presidential candidates he supported in Republican primaries are Alan Keys in 2000, Fred Thompson in 2008, and was undecided between Ron Paul and Newt Gingrich in 2012. Hates taxes, gays, Obama, the media and all liberals. Believes Obama is illegal immigrant from Kenya.
9/11 Truther: ACLU lawyer and PETA card carrying member. Written columns on Democratic Underground forum. Voted for Ralph Nader in 2000 but supported Kucinich in 2004/08. He believes all elected Republicans are destroying America. Has been in the Students for 9/11 Truth since it's existence. Supports the creation of a Department of Peace
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Birther.
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Quote from: Duck and Cover! on April 28, 2012, 12:08:19 pm
Birther.
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Henry Clay
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April 28, 2012, 01:12:53 pm »
The sane opinion: none of the above
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Quote from: Vermin Supreme on April 28, 2012, 01:12:53 pm
The sane opinion: none of the above
If that was an option- why didn't you make it one in the poll?
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9/11 Truther wins due to distrust in government.
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Henry Clay
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Quote from: Senator Clarence on April 28, 2012, 01:33:41 pm
Quote from: Vermin Supreme on April 28, 2012, 01:12:53 pm
The sane opinion: none of the above
If that was an option- why didn't you make it one in the poll?
Forget about making it as one in the poll.
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Vosem
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April 28, 2012, 09:57:41 pm »
Probably the birther; if there was a hint of doubt between the two, I would vote for the birther to prevent PETA-ism, but if the birther's election was safe, as it probably would be, I would vote third party.
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The birther will easily be able to paint the truther as 'too left-wing' and win in a small landslide.
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Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on April 28, 2012, 12:31:46 pm
Quote from: Duck and Cover! on April 28, 2012, 12:08:19 pm
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Henry Clay
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Quote from: Alfred F. Jones on April 29, 2012, 07:27:29 am
The birther will easily be able to paint the truther as 'too left-wing' and win in a small landslide.
The birther also is far right on everything and that includes the drug war. Won't work in this tl.
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April 29, 2012, 07:50:53 pm »
At least there's some suspicious things about 9/11. Obama's birth certificate is pretty boring.
Here's the sorts of things that encouraged the truthers.
1. Bush ignoring memo titled "Bin Laden determined to strike in US"
2. PNAC called for "a new Pearl Harbor" so that we could attack Iraq
3. Bush had some pipeline deal with the Taliban
4. Bush ignored all of Richard Clarke's warnings.
5. That an FBI investigator was concerned about that Zacarias Moussaoui wanted to fly a plane into the World Trade Center but his concerns were ignored.
6. Max Cleland resigned from the 9/11 commission because it was a whitewash.
Oh yeah, and if you ever hear Donald Rumsfeld say "terrorists could attack somewhere vaguely near in the not too distant future", start running.
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Quote from: Vermin Supreme on April 29, 2012, 07:43:56 pm
Quote from: Alfred F. Jones on April 29, 2012, 07:27:29 am
The birther will easily be able to paint the truther as 'too left-wing' and win in a small landslide.
The birther also is far right on everything and that includes the drug war. Won't work in this tl.
I don't really think he'd be very different from some of the more extrrrrreme Tea Partiers, and he'd be running against a far-left candidate who he could easily paint with his own brush if he was any good at politics.
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You make the birther sound a little more sane. Maybe if he was someone who was obnoxious about his wealth and violently and decadently campaigned against abortion, the truther would have a chance.
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This argument is silly.
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Henry Clay
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Quote from: sirnick on April 28, 2012, 04:48:42 pm
9/11 Truther wins due to distrust in government.
Couldn't the same thing be said about the birther. Both groups mouth off anti government rhetoric.
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