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The Mikado
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« on: April 28, 2012, 08:06:27 PM »

Savage should shut up.  He's just hurting the entire "It Gets Better" thing this way.
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 08:27:46 PM »

Link gets broken by the profanity filter, and there doesn't appear to be any way to fix it.

Copy/paste it into the address bar and fix it manually?
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2012, 08:17:06 PM »

Savage is utterly failing at fighting bullying.  He's only increasing tensions.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2012, 11:56:31 AM »

Slavery is a perfect example. There is a reluctance to accept the position that churches and Christians held on this matter until recently in human history or to acknowledge that, “you know what, if you read what the NT says about slavery, slave owners had a point.” But do Christians sit and argue over slavery? Sam Harris is right; slavery is the easiest moral question we have ever faced.


I wouldn't agree that it's an easy moral choice at all.  The "right of the conquered" has a lot of logical moral purchase before you leave the context in which it ceases to be seen that way.  Slavery was also the fundamental underpinning of society in Antiquity, on all levels: economic, political, and, yes, moral, as shown by the Greek philosophers.  The idea that slavery is fundamentally morally wrong is actually an exceptionally new idea (less than 200 years old, for the most part), and we only all share it because we grew up in a social context that believed that idea to be true.  The fact that we have no (0, none, nada, etc.) arguments for the absolute abolition of slavery surviving from Antiquity speaks volumes.  People may have thought that freeing slaves was a pious act, but no one wanted to get rid of the institution. 

Really, it was only the rise of the modern industrial economy that killed slavery more than any moral arguments against it.  And it was the advent of feudalism and the increased sense of semi-free serfs over slaves that brought down Antiquity's slavery.  Moral considerations were window dressing.
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