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« on: April 28, 2012, 08:38:51 pm »
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 04:28:05 am »
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China ruler = HP.
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22:15   ComradeSibboleth   this is all extremely terrible and in all respects absolutely fycking dire.

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 04:34:28 am »
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All Chinese leaders under the present political system = HP.
Even though he is not among the worst of them.
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 06:54:42 am »
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I agree with the above two posters...you can't rule the PRC and not be an HP.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2012, 08:55:07 am »
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2012, 09:02:12 am »
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non-ideological foreign Others poll very badly here.
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 03:09:32 pm »
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You mean or Chinese poster?
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 04:25:08 pm »
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He's a technocratic robot, which almost all Chinese Politburo members are anyways. I'm somewhat pleasantly surprised by his actions of the past few months. It's strange but true that most westerners who unilaterally vote HP wouldn't be that much different if they were in power.
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 04:42:32 pm »
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He's a technocratic robot, which almost all Chinese Politburo members are anyways. I'm somewhat pleasantly surprised by his actions of the past few months. It's strange but true that most westerners who unilaterally vote HP wouldn't be that much different if they were in power.
Maybe not on economic policies in general and foreign policy, but certainly regarding human rights. Personally I would also differ quite a lot on the environment and welfare for the poor, minority policies etc. All in all, I don't believe you are right about this.
But like I said before Hu J. is not the worst of the bastards.
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Maybe not on economic policies in general and foreign policy, but certainly regarding human rights. Personally I would also differ quite a lot on the environment and welfare for the poor, minority policies etc. All in all, I don't believe you are right about this.
But like I said before Hu J. is not the worst of the bastards.

There's an ancient proverb that "the sky is high and the emperor is far". This means the Emperor in the Forbidden City (or the General Secretary in the Politburo) can issue any proclamation he wants; making it matter to anyone on the ground is an art in itself. The Chinese leader who had that political power was, well, Mao. It's very difficult to rein in polluting practices when a population double that of the United States and the EU combined is undergoing an industrial revolution. It's also very difficult (though some progress has been made under Hu) to implement a public welfare system when eight digits of bureaucrats hoping to enrich themselves are involved. In a nutshell, the entire leadership is corrupt and self-serving, but still understand they have to earn their legitimacy.

As for minorities, the Chinese state implements policies which not even the most cartoonishly "multi-culti" left-wing western government will dare to contemplate. It's been official policy that criminals of ethnic minority status will explicitly receive lighter punishments. Pig farms are unofficially forbidden in areas with a high proportion of Muslims. I have a friend, currently studying in Dortmund, who declared himself part of a mountain tribe (even though nothing otherwise distinguishes him) to take advantage of bonus points on the university entrance exams. Maybe this is what Anders Breivik was referring to as "cultural Marxism". A truly democratic Chinese government will change its policies towards minorities tomorrow.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 01:17:27 am »
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A colorless, gray, boring, bureaucrat.... who has presided over the most successful decade in Chinese history since the Opium War. Still, I voted HP, as an emblem of a political system which tends to make one HP by default. He certainly is no better than Mitt Romney, who I consider a HP.
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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2012, 10:20:15 am »
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He's not a bad person, he just occupies a position that makes him need to be horrible.
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