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« on: April 29, 2012, 03:22:58 pm »
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Eurico Gaspar Dutra (1946-1951) - eliminated round 1
Juscelino Kubitschek (1956-1961) - eliminated round 5
Joćo Goulart (1961-1964) - eliminated round 4
Fernando Collor de Mello (1990-1992) - eliminated round 2
Itamar Franco (1992-1995) - eliminated round 6
Fernando Henrique Cardoso (1995-2003) - eliminated round 3
Luiz Inįcio Lula da Silva (2003-2011) - FINALIST

Remaining President from post-Vargas era. The last one to stay will go to a runoff with group A winner
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2012, 03:23:32 pm »
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Usual rule.

Vote to eliminate one President



Eurico Gaspar Dutra

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2012, 03:50:49 pm »
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Fernando Collor de Mello (would have been my choice even without the subdivision)
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2012, 06:10:45 pm »
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Eurico Gaspar Dutra, no doubt.
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S: -6.78 -> -6.09 -> -7.30 -> -7.13 -> -8.09 -> -8.35 -> -9.04 -> -8.61
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2012, 01:16:09 pm »
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Eurico Gaspar Dutra
He banished commies...
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2012, 01:41:39 pm »
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Fernando Collor de Mello
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2012, 02:30:37 pm »
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Eurico Gaspar Dutra: 3
Fernando Collor de Mello: 2

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2012, 02:32:25 pm »
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Round 2

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Fernie Color of Melon
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2012, 02:38:51 pm »
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Ill stick to my choice from last round. Fernie has to go!
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2012, 03:53:04 pm »
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Fernando Collor de Mello
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2012, 04:42:36 pm »
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Fernando will be eliminated anyways, so FHC
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S: -6.78 -> -6.09 -> -7.30 -> -7.13 -> -8.09 -> -8.35 -> -9.04 -> -8.61
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 03:58:27 pm »
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Fernando Collor de Mello: 3
Fernando Henrique Cardoso: 1



Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9xqABSn1X0
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 04:04:05 pm »
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Round 3

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Fernando Henrique Cardoso

FHC was very overrated, both as Finance Minister and President. His claims he "invented" Plano Real are ridiculous (sure, he did nice job seeling it to media, but there were economist that developed plan and Itamar, that ordered it).
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2012, 04:38:55 pm »
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FHC. Itamar was a good person.
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E: -6.06 -> -6.97 -> -6.97 -> -8.13 -> -7.29 -> -8.26 -> -8.65 -> -7.03
S: -6.78 -> -6.09 -> -7.30 -> -7.13 -> -8.09 -> -8.35 -> -9.04 -> -8.61
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2012, 04:47:33 pm »
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Fernando Enrique Cardoso
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2012, 07:12:51 pm »
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Joćo Goulart
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2012, 03:48:33 pm »
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Fernando Henrique Cardoso: 3
Joćo Goulart: 1

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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2012, 03:50:04 pm »
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Round 4

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Damn, this is getting really hard now.

I vote to eliminate Goulart. I like Jango, but Kubitschek, Itamar and Lula were far more accomplished. Not Jango's fault, but someone have to go Sad
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2012, 03:54:17 pm »
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Damn, this is getting really hard now.
Yeah, but its a consequence of your creation of two pools. The four remaining guys are the ones I wanted as the final 4. They are all better than any of the guys from the Old Republic.
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2012, 04:03:44 pm »
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Damn, this is getting really hard now.
Yeah, but its a consequence of your creation of two pools. The four remaining guys are the ones I wanted as the final 4. They are all better than any of the guys from the Old Republic.

True. I'll consider merging them again into one vote after this one ends.

What do you think?
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2012, 04:43:12 pm »
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It would be too confusing now that you made the split. Also I think people would eliminate the old guys first, so you would get basically the same order of elimination, just with the Old Republic decided before the modern republic.

Keep them separate. But this pool will be the moral final!

Regarding my vote Ill go with Juscelino Kubitschek, even though I know this will be a controversial choice. He was a great modernizer, but on the negative side there is corruption, inflation, Brasilia and prioritizing roads over railroads. Also the environmental and cultural consequences of opening up the Amazon region without a comprehensive and realistic strategy for protecting the Indians and the environment.
(this may not have been possible under the circumstances, but he could have done far more)
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2012, 06:26:29 pm »
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Joćo Goulart
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2012, 11:03:14 pm »
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Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira - I love Rio!
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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 02:44:04 pm »
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Goulart
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My evolution (by The Political Matrix):
E: -6.06 -> -6.97 -> -6.97 -> -8.13 -> -7.29 -> -8.26 -> -8.65 -> -7.03
S: -6.78 -> -6.09 -> -7.30 -> -7.13 -> -8.09 -> -8.35 -> -9.04 -> -8.61
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« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2012, 03:11:20 pm »
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Joao Goulart: 3
Juscelino Kubitschek de Oliveira: 2

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