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Question: What punishment do you think a convict found guilty of murder, rape, and pedophilia should get?
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Republican: Death Penalty
 
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Republican: Life in Prison w/out Parole
 
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Democrat: Death Penalty
 
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Democrat: Life in Prison w/out Parole
 
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independent/third party: Death Penalty
 
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independent/third party: Life in Prison w/out Parole
 
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« Reply #100 on: November 02, 2012, 02:06:05 AM »


opposing the death penalty is dume how you can oppose killing our enemies if you oppose your nothing but a hippy daisy picker we need to expand death penalty you kill once you get the death penalty.

I oppose killing my or anybody else's enemies among other reasons because I'm a Christian. If you support you're nothing but a bloodthirsty atheist*.


*Mods, I'm aware that this sentence doesn't make any sense. I'm engaging in a dialectic, here...

Wow you people make me sick you want to keep murders alive that evil your a pagan for that & that wrong we should kill all criminals and murders if you commit a crime you should get the penalty we need to expand it for example if you do arm robbery i say death penalty is needed.
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« Reply #101 on: November 02, 2012, 02:08:23 AM »


opposing the death penalty is dume how you can oppose killing our enemies if you oppose your nothing but a hippy daisy picker we need to expand death penalty you kill once you get the death penalty.

I oppose killing my or anybody else's enemies among other reasons because I'm a Christian. If you support you're nothing but a bloodthirsty atheist*.


*Mods, I'm aware that this sentence doesn't make any sense. I'm engaging in a dialectic, here...

Wow you people make me sick you want to keep murders alive that evil your a pagan for that & that wrong we should kill all criminals and murders if you commit a crime you should get the penalty we need to expand it for example if you do arm robbery i say death penalty is needed.

What crimes, if any, would you concede that the death penalty might be excessive, unnecessary, or just plain ineffectual as a deterrent for?
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« Reply #102 on: November 02, 2012, 02:09:54 AM »


opposing the death penalty is dume how you can oppose killing our enemies if you oppose your nothing but a hippy daisy picker we need to expand death penalty you kill once you get the death penalty.

I oppose killing my or anybody else's enemies among other reasons because I'm a Christian. If you support you're nothing but a bloodthirsty atheist*.


*Mods, I'm aware that this sentence doesn't make any sense. I'm engaging in a dialectic, here...

Wow you people make me sick you want to keep murders alive that evil your a pagan for that & that wrong we should kill all criminals and murders if you commit a crime you should get the penalty we need to expand it for example if you do arm robbery i say death penalty is needed.

What crimes, if any, would you concede that the death penalty might be excessive, unnecessary, or just plain ineffectual as a deterrent for?

If you murder somebody you should get the death penalty it that simple. If you commit armed robery or steal from a bank you should to. It a good idea.
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« Reply #103 on: November 02, 2012, 02:11:51 AM »


opposing the death penalty is dume how you can oppose killing our enemies if you oppose your nothing but a hippy daisy picker we need to expand death penalty you kill once you get the death penalty.

I oppose killing my or anybody else's enemies among other reasons because I'm a Christian. If you support you're nothing but a bloodthirsty atheist*.


*Mods, I'm aware that this sentence doesn't make any sense. I'm engaging in a dialectic, here...

Wow you people make me sick you want to keep murders alive that evil your a pagan for that & that wrong we should kill all criminals and murders if you commit a crime you should get the penalty we need to expand it for example if you do arm robbery i say death penalty is needed.

What crimes, if any, would you concede that the death penalty might be excessive, unnecessary, or just plain ineffectual as a deterrent for?

If you murder somebody you should get the death penalty it that simple. If you commit armed robery or steal from a bank you should to. It a good idea.

I get that you feel that way. Are there any crimes you don't feel that way about? What about mail fraud, for example?
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« Reply #104 on: November 02, 2012, 07:11:25 AM »

Is Banjo a sock puppet?
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« Reply #105 on: November 02, 2012, 01:05:53 PM »
« Edited: November 02, 2012, 01:07:55 PM by Is it over yet? »


opposing the death penalty is dume how you can oppose killing our enemies if you oppose your nothing but a hippy daisy picker we need to expand death penalty you kill once you get the death penalty.

I oppose killing my or anybody else's enemies among other reasons because I'm a Christian. If you support you're nothing but a bloodthirsty atheist*.


*Mods, I'm aware that this sentence doesn't make any sense. I'm engaging in a dialectic, here...

Wow you people make me sick you want to keep murders alive that evil your a pagan for that & that wrong we should kill all criminals and murders if you commit a crime you should get the penalty we need to expand it for example if you do arm robbery i say death penalty is needed.

Your grammar and punctuation have clearly been put to death by lethal injection.
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« Reply #106 on: November 03, 2012, 04:18:32 AM »

That's an issue I find myself thinking about and have been swaying on, but recently I've been more against the death penalty, mostly for cost reasons.
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« Reply #107 on: November 03, 2012, 04:31:40 AM »


opposing the death penalty is dume how you can oppose killing our enemies if you oppose your nothing but a hippy daisy picker we need to expand death penalty you kill once you get the death penalty.

I oppose killing my or anybody else's enemies among other reasons because I'm a Christian. If you support you're nothing but a bloodthirsty atheist*.


*Mods, I'm aware that this sentence doesn't make any sense. I'm engaging in a dialectic, here...

Wow you people make me sick you want to keep murders alive that evil your a pagan for that & that wrong we should kill all criminals and murders if you commit a crime you should get the penalty we need to expand it for example if you do arm robbery i say death penalty is needed.

Your grammar and punctuation have clearly been put to death by lethal injection.

Hey SHUT UP
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« Reply #108 on: November 26, 2012, 05:08:45 AM »

Republican-Yes.
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« Reply #109 on: November 26, 2012, 06:07:32 PM »


To what? 
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« Reply #110 on: November 26, 2012, 06:09:14 PM »

as someone who supports the death penalty, i have to say a lot of the posts in this thread aren't doing the position much service.
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« Reply #111 on: November 28, 2012, 05:13:08 AM »


I strongly support capital punishment.
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« Reply #112 on: November 28, 2012, 05:30:10 AM »

as someone who supports the death penalty, i have to say a lot of the posts in this thread aren't doing the position much service.
That is the exact reason the socks are doing it.  Sure it's dirty pool, but do you expect anything less from the left*?




*of course "the left" isn't the only group that does it.  That would be a stupid thing to think.  Like thinking Americans are the only ones to fight over a good deal...or blaming capitalism for people acting like asshats.
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« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2012, 10:36:08 PM »

Democrat - Life without parole.
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« Reply #114 on: November 29, 2012, 01:08:42 AM »

Democrat - Pro-Death penalty. 

There are just some people who commit crimes that go so far beyond human decency that I don't want to share the planet with them.  Someone like Adolf Eichmann to me is a clear case where the proper punishment was death.

But, I would limit it to intentional murder and I would apply a higher standard of proof, something like proven beyond any doubt or overwhelming evidence.  This way it would be used extremely rarely and we wouldn't run into as many problems of wrongly sentencing people to death. 
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« Reply #115 on: December 01, 2012, 05:12:37 PM »

Opposing the death penalty is wack.
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« Reply #116 on: December 01, 2012, 10:04:20 PM »

Rape and murder crimes have different circumstances.  You can't just blanket all of them into death penalties.  Sex crimes are have too many factors.

 

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« Reply #117 on: December 08, 2012, 03:56:51 PM »

Independent: Yes, if proven beyond doubt. There are certain crimes which should be unforgivable and where it must be made certain that those who committed them have no chance to commit them again.
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« Reply #118 on: December 08, 2012, 04:05:43 PM »

Republican: Death Penalty.
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« Reply #119 on: December 08, 2012, 04:15:11 PM »
« Edited: December 08, 2012, 04:21:14 PM by Mutthole Surfers »

independent - voted death penalty, which I would like to see as the sole punishment for murder, but like the constitutional standard for treason, only if two or more witnesses can be provided. (Forensic evidence would be counted as only one witness, no matter how many people present it.) A lesser conviction, either for manslaughter, or with only one witness should have the punishment be life without parole, and the jury should be given the option to find that only one witness was credible, thereby making the defendant ineligible for the death penalty.  Neither rape nor pedophilia, as horrible as they are, warrant a death penalty on their own, or as special circumstance that makes a homicide a capital offense.

I would go with something like this. Basically, for a defendant to be eligible for the Death Penalty, guilt must be proven beyond any competent(more than reasonable, no one without a moral or mental defect, even if they are strongly biased against  a finding guilt, would doubt the guilt) doubt.

The crimes that should warrant it should be treason, terrorism or some sort of heinious premeditated murder for any other reason which, in a single criminal episode or over several criminal episodes, causes the death of 10 or more people.

All this being said, there should a limit of one appeal for the death penalty and upon sentence, it must be carried out in 5-10 or the sentence is commuted to life without parole.

However, there should be alternatives for murder and other crimes that traditionally warrant the death penalty besides just recieving life with or without the opportunity for release. Perhaps for heinous sex offenses that don't involve permenant death or disability of the victim, the defendent may be released after a reasonable period of years if they comply with an order of a definite period civil commitment and agree to undergo radical surgical castration (removal or all sex organs and sexual characteristics).

The point I am trying to make is that its not a legitmate interest of Government to settle personal blood feuds. It is a legitimate interest of Government to protect macro-level Security.
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« Reply #120 on: December 08, 2012, 04:24:42 PM »

Hell no, not when progressive penal systems like that of Norway have proven effective at rehabilitating criminals back into being productive members of society.

Anyway, though, if someone can be rehabilitated, then executing them would be a purposeless waste of life, and if they cannot be rehabilitated, they aren't at fault.

But the death penalty saves all the time and effort of 'reforming' the worthless gutter-trash of society, most of whom are so evil that the death penalty in its present form is too good for them anyway.

Lol.... Moron.

Forgive me for having no sympathy for serial killers, rapists and child molesters....but of course, its 'societies' fault.

I understand that you watched the Onion's report on the Supreme Court's Constitutional review of the Death Penalty? Perhaps we could change death penalty statutes and regulation to allow for no one standard procedure of implementing the Death Penalty. Maybe the state can contract out the death penalty to private parties who would be solely responsible for causing the defendant's death.
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« Reply #121 on: December 09, 2012, 03:24:43 PM »

With over 100 votes, it's too late to change this poll now, but what I intended to ask was whether you all would still oppose the death penalty if someone were convicted of all three crimes (murder, rape, and pedophilia/child molestation) involving the same victim(s).
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« Reply #122 on: December 09, 2012, 03:29:03 PM »

With over 100 votes, it's too late to change this poll now, but what I intended to ask was whether you all would still oppose the death penalty if someone were convicted of all three crimes (murder, rape, and pedophilia/child molestation) involving the same victim(s).

Yes.
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« Reply #123 on: December 09, 2012, 03:47:50 PM »

With over 100 votes, it's too late to change this poll now, but what I intended to ask was whether you all would still oppose the death penalty if someone were convicted of all three crimes (murder, rape, and pedophilia/child molestation) involving the same victim(s).

Yes.
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« Reply #124 on: December 09, 2012, 04:26:48 PM »

Death Penalty (D)
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