Death Penalty Question

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

DEATH.  Indy

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

And I'm an atheist if that's relevant

Neh, most here are.  I'm a Christian who favors the death penalty.....but I don't get this required connection between the death penalty and abortion stuff.

Oh and welcome.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The thinking behind it Gramps: Life itself has its value, near unlimited value actually. Putting a condition on that, e.g. not being a murderer, changes the whole concept.

I see them as distinct issues, but ok. 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Is the death penaly really a major partisan issue?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Im Pro-Life/Anti-Death Penalty.

The only civilized position.  

more like the worst position ever.

What's your angle, newbie?

opposing the death penalty is dume how you can oppose killing our enemies if you oppose your nothing but a hippy daisy picker we need to expand death penalty you kill once you get the death penalty.

I oppose killing my or anybody else's enemies among other reasons because I'm a Christian. If you support you're nothing but a bloodthirsty atheist*.


*Mods, I'm aware that this sentence doesn't make any sense. I'm engaging in a dialectic, here...

Wow you people make me sick you want to keep murders alive that evil your a pagan for that & that wrong we should kill all criminals and murders if you commit a crime you should get the penalty we need to expand it for example if you do arm robbery i say death penalty is needed.

Your grammar and punctuation have clearly been put to death by lethal injection.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The Connecticut school shooting can make you question the death penalty but even after it I still have to say no to the death penalty. Of course lucky for us most of the time they kill themselves. Of course I generally keep this opinion to myself since most people I know and in general would be outraged if I said we should not kill the Connecticut school shooter had he lived. I wonder if he had lived if Connecticut would have brought back the death penalty for heinous crimes. I like that Michigan hasn't had the death penalty since 1846, we were way ahead of everyone.

The thing is: People who call themselves opposed to the death penalty and then make exceptions for "extreme" cases aren't in reality opposed to the death penalty.

And I personally welcome them to the "correct" side of the question. 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The Connecticut school shooting can make you question the death penalty but even after it I still have to say no to the death penalty. Of course lucky for us most of the time they kill themselves. Of course I generally keep this opinion to myself since most people I know and in general would be outraged if I said we should not kill the Connecticut school shooter had he lived. I wonder if he had lived if Connecticut would have brought back the death penalty for heinous crimes. I like that Michigan hasn't had the death penalty since 1846, we were way ahead of everyone.

The thing is: People who call themselves opposed to the death penalty and then make exceptions for "extreme" cases aren't in reality opposed to the death penalty.

And I personally welcome them to the "correct" side of the question.  

The barbaric, blood thirsty, reactionary side of the question?

The death penalty ain't supposed to be soft and warm and fuzzy treatment, Franzl.  

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Maybe you really are grumpy...

Well I think we've agreed to disagree on this issue long ago....