SENATE BILL: Trim Away The Fat Act of 2012 (Failed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: NC Yankee

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The last of 20RP12's deluge.


Again, 24 hours to pick this up, if no one wants it I am going to make it vanish the quick and simple way.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

This should be fun lol

[tmthforu94]

I'd encourage the Senate to at least discuss the idea of making some cuts.

Jake, where specifically did you make cuts?

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

A link to the budget that is in effect now would be convenient to compare this with.  But as for the current bill, I strongly oppose section 1 and definitely will not vote for this bill if it remains in the final text.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

Yes- can some one please link to the budget so we can compare?

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Not going to sign this in anything close to this form... I will be presenting a Budget next week for Senate consideration. There will be spending cuts and consolidations, as well as small revenue increases.

[Sbane]

I am open to cuts...but the Atlasian health care act is already in the process of being reformed so that is off the table. We are making $3 Trillion dollars in cuts (using Washington calculations)!!!!! What more can one want?

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Here is the original budget before I cut it:

Budget Update- Part 2B Direct Spending

TOTAL Direct Spending = $ 2.840 Trillion

Military Spending ($427.3 billion)
$101.19 billion ... Military personnel
$143.52 billion ... Operation and maintenance
$72.43 billion .... Procurement
$71.73 billion .... Research, development, test and evaluation
$15.25 billion .... Military Construction, Family Housing and Other
$18.29 billion .... Atomic Energy Defense Activities
$2.89 billion ..... Defense Related activities

Afghanistan Operations ($45.25 billion)
$37.2 billion ..... Military Operations
$8.05 billion .... Reconstruction aid

Military Retirement ($123.13 billion)
$43.97 billion .... Military retirement
$38.54 billion .... Income security for veterans
$3.41 billion ...... Veterans education, training, and rehabilitation
$36.45 billion ..... Hospital and medical care for veterans and retired military
$0.76 billion ...... Housing and other veterans benefits and services

International affairs ($32.23 billion)
$13.64 billion ...... International development and humanitarian assistance
$9.47 billion ...... International military aid
$7.97 billion ...... Conduct of foreign affairs
$1.15 billion ...... Foreign information and exchange activities

General science, space, and technology ($23.97 billion)
$5.62 billion ...... National Science Foundation programs
$3.44 billion ...... Department of Energy general science programs
$14.91 billion ..... Space flight, research, and supporting activities

Non-Defense Energy Spending ($14.62 billion)
$0.73 billion ...... Energy supply
$1.03 billion ...... Energy conservation and preparedness
$0.36 billion ...... Energy information, preparedness, & regulation
$12.5 billion ...... Go Green Fund

Natural resources and environment ($36.06 billion)
$5.45 billion ..... Water resources
$9.07 billion ..... Conservation and land management
$3.12 billion ..... Recreational & Park resources
$8.42 billion ..... Pollution control and abatement
$4.9 billion ....... Environmental Fund from plastic bag tax  
$5.1 billion ....... Other natural resources

Agriculture ($18.02 billion)
$13.73 billion ..... Farm income stabilization & crop insurance
$4.29 billion ...... Agricultural research and services

Commerce and Housing Loan Programs ($6.82 billion)
$-4.28 billion ..... Federal Housing Loan Programs
$2.17 billion ...... Postal service
$-0.96 billion ..... Deposit insurance
$7.96 billion ...... Universal service fund
$1.93 billion ...... Other advancement of commerce

Transportation ($107.5 billion)
$33.13 billion ..... Highways and highway safety
$38 billion ......... High speed rail (Transportation Infrastructure Investment Act)
$8.51 billion ...... Other Mass transit
$2.81 billion ...... Railroads
$17.26 billion ..... Air Transportation
$7.37 billion ...... Water transportation
$0.42 billion ...... Other transportation

Community and regional development ($59.96 billion)
$6.25 billion ...... Community development
$8.36 billion ...... Area and regional development
$10.15 billion ...... Disaster relief and insurance
$2.5 billion ........ Homeless Shelter Emergency Housing
$32.7 billion ...... Small Business Association

Education ($103.52 billion)
$57.57 billion ..... Elementary, Secondary & Vocational education
$42.72 billion ..... Higher education
$3.23 billion ...... Research and general education

Training, labor and unemployment ($8.48 billion)
$6.88 billion ...... Training and employment
$1.6 billion ....... Labor law, statistics, and other administration

Atlasian National Healthcare ($1229.13 billion)
$299.27 billion ... IDS Community Health Partnership
$278.07 billion ... ME Community Health Partnership
$140.18 billion ... MW Community Health Partnership
$257.89 billion ... NE Community Health Partnership
$231.71 billion ... PA Community Health Partnership
$21.81 billion ..... Central Administration Costs

Non-ANH Health Spending ($37.07 billion)
$4.7 billion ....... Disease control, public health and bioterrorism
$29.36 billion ... Health research and training
$3.01 billion ..... Food safety and occupational health and safety

Civilian Retirement (Social Security excluded) ($72.02 billion)
$4.89 billion ...... Civilian retirement and disability insurance
$58.22 billion .... Federal employee retirement and disability
$8.91 billion ...... Federal employees' and retired employees' health benefits

Aid to Low-Income Families ($177.71 billion)
$63.45 billion ..... Housing assistance
$87.58 billion ..... Food stamps
$19.3 billion ...... Other nutrition programs (WIC, school lunches)
$4.8 billion ....... Child care funds
$2.58 billion ...... Other aid to low-income families

General Family Support ($25.62 billion)
$6.56 billion ...... Foster care and adoption assistance
$2.92 billion ...... Child support and family support programs
$16.14 billion ..... Social and family services

Administration of justice ($33.1 billion)
$7.25 billion ..... Federal law enforcement
$7.46 billion ..... Border security and immigration
$10.91 billion ..... Federal litigation and judicial activities
$3.26 billion ...... Federal prison system
$4.22 billion ...... Criminal justice assistance

General government administration ($17.76 billion)
$3.67 billion ...... Legislative functions
$1.14 billion ...... Executive office programs
$9.8 billion ....... IRS & other fiscal operations
$3.15 billion ...... Other general government

Interest on debt ($240.38 billion)
$240.38 billion .... Net Interest[/size]

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SUMMARY: Current Projected Figures for 2012

Direct Spending      $2,839.65 Billion
Tax Credits               $310.2  Billion
TOTAL Expenditures $3149.85 Billion

REVENUE               $2,724.6   Billion
EXPENDITURES     -$3,149.85 Billion
BALANCE                 -$ 425.25 Billion

Current Debt: $12.62 TRILLION
Projected Debt (Jan 2013): $13.05 TRILLION

(Note: Expenditure, Deficit and Debt figures do not include spending by the National Social Security administration, which has its own budget. Expenditures for some credits and programs, such as Atlasian National Healthcare, may change based on public participation.)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The last of 20RP12's deluge.


Again, 24 hours to pick this up, if no one wants it I am going to make it vanish the quick and simple way.

You guys are running out of time.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

I may pick this up but I have a question for 20RP12- did you intentionally leave out interest on debt?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Something to keep in mind: this would mean a lot of changes in specific laws that have been passed.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

Shua- are you saying it might be better to wait for Polnut's budget and just amend that?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Shua- are you saying it might be better to wait for Polnut's budget and just amend that?

It might, but really I was just pointing to the fact that a lot of the items in these budgets are the results of specific laws.  I was thinking somewhat of how that would need to be handled in the wiki if this passed to be clear which laws are still in effect or are amended.

Something I should point out is that I had been planning anyway to do an update of the budget in the next week or so anyway since there have been some changes due to new laws, fiscal calendar stuff, etc.  I was going to wait to see if the new healthcare law passed first, but instead I'll try to expedite it since all this budget talk is going on now.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

I may pick this up but I have a question for 20RP12- did you intentionally leave out interest on debt?

I didn't think to include it.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I propose this amendment:

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[Grumpier Than Thou]

[Yelnoc]

You will need to take into account the current national healthcare act, assuming it passes.  Might want to run some projections with that in mind (or ask Shua to do so).

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Amendments will not be considered in order until a sponsor has volunteered for this bill. Only two hours left.


sharpens scythe and dusts off black cape

[LastVoter]

I propose this amendment:

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You won't actually vote for this right? This is like a 20% cut to education.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

I am in the early stages of developing the administration's Budget.

There will be some short and sharp shocks in some areas, but services to vulnerable citizens and basic and vital services will NOT be affected.

I believe we can bring about deep, but targeted and effective cuts but maintain service delivery and start to pay off the debt from next year.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

I propose this amendment:

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You won't actually vote for this right? This is like a 20% cut to education.

Well, no, but we might end up changing the actual details to make it more palatable.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Well, now Yankee is gonna pull the trigger cuz it has no sponsor. It's as good as dead. An odd fate, honestly

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well, now Yankee is gonna pull the trigger cuz it has no sponsor. It's as good as dead. An odd fate, honestly

Didn't I tell you to round up sponsors for all your damn bills three weeks ago?

[Grumpier Than Thou]

I can't make people attach their name to this sh*t.