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« on: May 01, 2012, 12:04:17 am »
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It still needs to pass the Senate but Republicans seem especially bitter over the 2010 gubernatorial results.
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"What happened to my vote that was legal?'' Cafero boomed on the House floor. "What happened to my vote that was legal?''

He asked about the tight 2010 election when "whether true or not, there were widespread allegations of fraud.''

"You come up with your ID or a book bill or some freaking thing with your address on it,'' Cafero said. "Since I was 4 years old, I knew Election Day was the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. If you can't get it done, wait till next year, pal. Wait till next year.''

"You wanna cheat? You wanna rig an election?'' Cafero asked. "Your vote's gonna count.''

The debate started shortly before 6 p.m. Monday in the historic Hall of the House. The bill now goes to the Senate. If passed there, the registration would not take place until the November 2013 local elections and would not be effective for the 2012 presidential election.
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 12:13:51 am »
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You can count on Republicans being against most things that increase voter turnout.

Nearly 14 years later, the Oregon Republican party is still officially opposed to vote-by-mail: http://www.oregonrepublicanparty.org/platform

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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 12:26:05 am »
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CT is becoming better and better each day. If they get rid of Lieberman and replace him with Murphy, it's officially a FF state.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 12:28:41 am »
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CT is becoming better and better each day. If they get rid of Lieberman and replace him with Murphy, it's officially a FF state.

We are already a FF state. Obviously, I am on Team Murphy, though the black Republican candidate, Brian Hill is, well, mildly interesting. Don't worry, I am not going to vote for a Republican candidate (which will probably be McMahon).
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2012, 12:32:14 am »
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We have same day registration and it works great. Awesome for CT for jumping aboard.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2012, 12:35:06 am »
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In an impassioned speech, House Republican leader Larry Cafero of Norwalk gave a hypothetical that "a little brat from Virginia'' could vote by absentee ballot in a presidential election in his home state and then vote while away at college in Connecticut.

Yes, it's possible to commit a felony that leaves a solid written record that you committed the felony. Of course I bet that Cafero had no problem with absentee ballots that had no postmark and were mailed after election day counting in the 2000 Florida election, but not other elections because Bush didn't need them then.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2012, 12:39:16 am »
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LOL that reminds me of how insanely easy it'd be for students of MSU-Moorhead who are from Fargo or somewhere else nearby in North Dakota to vote in both states, since North Dakota doesn't even have voter registration, any adult with an ND driver's license can vote there.
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I don't know, I think the beat-back that happened in the wake of the Inks-Deluge debacle (and the descent of Leip to address it) means that the Mods don't have the standing right now to pull off a ban of a big-name poster.  this place would absolutely erupt, at least for opebo.  jmf maybe a bit less so, but still an outcry.  doesn't mean it could not happen at a future point.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2012, 12:41:23 am »
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In an impassioned speech, House Republican leader Larry Cafero of Norwalk gave a hypothetical that "a little brat from Virginia'' could vote by absentee ballot in a presidential election in his home state and then vote while away at college in Connecticut.

Yes, it's possible to commit a felony that leaves a solid written record that you committed the felony. Of course I bet that Cafero had no problem with absentee ballots that had no postmark and were mailed after election day counting in the 2000 Florida election, but not other elections because Bush didn't need them then.

Isn't it possible for a VA college student to be registered to vote in VA and apply for an absentee ballot, and also register to vote in CT when he's studying there, even if there's no same day registration ? There are no cross checks between the states anyway on who is registered in which state to vote, so a voter with 50 homes in 50 states could theoretically be registered to vote in every state and vote in every state ... (?)
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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2012, 12:53:24 am »
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Pretty much the case yes. In my example above, it wouldn't be any more difficult for said student in Minnesota to vote in both states even if Minnesota didn't have same day registration, they'd just have to register beforehand and keep their ND driver's license. (I did have an ND driver's license throughout college, but even if I was willing to commit vote fraud I wouldn't be willing to drive 8 hours to do so.)
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I don't know, I think the beat-back that happened in the wake of the Inks-Deluge debacle (and the descent of Leip to address it) means that the Mods don't have the standing right now to pull off a ban of a big-name poster.  this place would absolutely erupt, at least for opebo.  jmf maybe a bit less so, but still an outcry.  doesn't mean it could not happen at a future point.
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2012, 12:59:18 am »
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In an impassioned speech, House Republican leader Larry Cafero of Norwalk gave a hypothetical that "a little brat from Virginia'' could vote by absentee ballot in a presidential election in his home state and then vote while away at college in Connecticut.

Yes, it's possible to commit a felony that leaves a solid written record that you committed the felony. Of course I bet that Cafero had no problem with absentee ballots that had no postmark and were mailed after election day counting in the 2000 Florida election, but not other elections because Bush didn't need them then.

Isn't it possible for a VA college student to be registered to vote in VA and apply for an absentee ballot, and also register to vote in CT when he's studying there, even if there's no same day registration ? There are no cross checks between the states anyway on who is registered in which state to vote, so a voter with 50 homes in 50 states could theoretically be registered to vote in every state and vote in every state ... (?)

Sure, someone could vote in all 50 states if they want to take 1225 chances that someone discovers they voted in 2 states.
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2012, 01:27:56 am »
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Isn't it possible for a VA college student to be registered to vote in VA and apply for an absentee ballot, and also register to vote in CT when he's studying there, even if there's no same day registration ? There are no cross checks between the states anyway on who is registered in which state to vote, so a voter with 50 homes in 50 states could theoretically be registered to vote in every state and vote in every state ... (?)

Stop making sense.

Of course, there's all sorts of wacky stuff.  MA allows a driver's license as proof of citizenship for registration .... and gives driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2012, 12:38:34 pm »

Given the potential for fraud, I'm not interested in same-day registration.  OTOH, having everyone with a driver's license (or other state-issued ID) be automatically registered to vote makes sense.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 07:29:22 am »
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Same day registration is horrible. I've worked the polls every election in Connecticut for the past 5 years, and it would just be a disaster. If you really want to vote, why don't you just go ahead and make sure that you are registered before the election.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 10:11:51 am »
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Same day registration is horrible. I've worked the polls every election in Connecticut for the past 5 years, and it would just be a disaster. If you really want to vote, why don't you just go ahead and make sure that you are registered before the election.

No, how about the government automatically registers you like Ernest suggested. Then it's up to you whether you want to vote but it won't depend on whether you remembered to register within 15 days before the election. It's not a big deal for us junkies, but normal people aren't always thinking about elections and in many cases don't even know about these laws.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 10:32:20 am »
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Same day registration is horrible. I've worked the polls every election in Connecticut for the past 5 years, and it would just be a disaster. If you really want to vote, why don't you just go ahead and make sure that you are registered before the election.

Oh really? It hasn't exactly been a disaster for us.
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 10:37:13 am »
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Same day registration is horrible. I've worked the polls every election in Connecticut for the past 5 years, and it would just be a disaster. If you really want to vote, why don't you just go ahead and make sure that you are registered before the election.
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2012, 10:40:23 am »
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In an impassioned speech, House Republican leader Larry Cafero of Norwalk gave a hypothetical that "a little brat from Virginia'' could vote by absentee ballot in a presidential election in his home state and then vote while away at college in Connecticut.

Yes, it's possible to commit a felony that leaves a solid written record that you committed the felony. Of course I bet that Cafero had no problem with absentee ballots that had no postmark and were mailed after election day counting in the 2000 Florida election, but not other elections because Bush didn't need them then.

Isn't it possible for a VA college student to be registered to vote in VA and apply for an absentee ballot, and also register to vote in CT when he's studying there, even if there's no same day registration ? There are no cross checks between the states anyway on who is registered in which state to vote, so a voter with 50 homes in 50 states could theoretically be registered to vote in every state and vote in every state ... (?)

Sure, someone could vote in all 50 states if they want to take 1225 chances that someone discovers they voted in 2 states.

That's where fake names come in handy.

On a completely unrelated note, if I ever post while traveling through New York in late October or early November, which is entirely possible since it's the state my best friend lives in, you're to address me as either Joe-Jack Hekmatyar or Skip Makioka.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 10:55:48 am »
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What would Connecticut politics be without Lawrence F. Cafero, Jr.?
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2012, 11:55:37 pm »
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i don't get why connecticut republicans are freaking out about this. Most Connecticut republicans aren't overly conservative and the only one I can think of who was (Gary Franks) still wasn't by any means a Jim DeMint.
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2012, 10:59:27 am »
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What would Connecticut politics be without Lawrence F. Cafero, Jr.?

I know, right? Larry is a cool guy.
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2012, 11:50:06 am »
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What would Connecticut politics be without Lawrence F. Cafero, Jr.?

I know, right? Larry is a cool guy.

Weren't you in his district?
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2012, 02:42:11 pm »
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Wow, just found out that in addition to election day registration, the bill would also allow online voter registration: http://www.fairelectionsnetwork.com/blog/connecticut-bucks-national-voter-suppression-trend

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The Connecticut House of Representatives passed a bill this week that would allow eligible residents to register to vote on Election Day and would create an online voter registration system. Gov. Dan Malloy issued the following comments: Passage of this legislation demonstrates Connecticuts commitment to fair, accessible elections, and I applaud the House for their action on this bill. Weve sent a clear signal to the rest of the country that Connecticut will not go in the direction of other states.

The bill will now move to the Connecticut Senate. If passed, the Election Day registration provision would go into effect on July 1, 2013 and the online voter registration provision would go into effect on January 1, 2014. Connecticut would join eight states that currently allow Election Day registration and 11 states with online voter registration.

Hope it passes.
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2012, 09:16:54 am »
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Wow, just found out that in addition to election day registration, the bill would also allow online voter registration: http://www.fairelectionsnetwork.com/blog/connecticut-bucks-national-voter-suppression-trend

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The Connecticut House of Representatives passed a bill this week that would allow eligible residents to register to vote on Election Day and would create an online voter registration system. Gov. Dan Malloy issued the following comments: Passage of this legislation demonstrates Connecticuts commitment to fair, accessible elections, and I applaud the House for their action on this bill. Weve sent a clear signal to the rest of the country that Connecticut will not go in the direction of other states.

The bill will now move to the Connecticut Senate. If passed, the Election Day registration provision would go into effect on July 1, 2013 and the online voter registration provision would go into effect on January 1, 2014. Connecticut would join eight states that currently allow Election Day registration and 11 states with online voter registration.

Hope it passes.

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It already passed on Saturday

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/politics/conn-senate-passes-election-day-registration
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2012, 03:12:40 pm »
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What would Connecticut politics be without Lawrence F. Cafero, Jr.?

I know, right? Larry is a cool guy.

Weren't you in his district?


No, I was in Chris Perones district, but I knew and worked with Larry.
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