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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2012, 08:53:54 pm »
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So Romney owns WV...

I wouldn't be surprised.  He probably intends to turn it into a golf course and spa.
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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2012, 09:26:24 pm »
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So Romney owns WV...

I wouldn't be surprised.  He probably intends to turn it into a golf course and spa.
I feel a new home state coming on.
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2012, 11:34:47 pm »
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West Virginia Democrats aren't the brightest canaries in the coalmine.
About the only thing dumber than that they think Manchin is a Democrat is that they think Oliverio is a Democrat. Epic fail.
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« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2012, 12:41:30 pm »
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So Romney owns WV but is loosing ground in Kentucky?


He isn't a great match for either and were Clinton President, he would probably loose them both to her.

No. Just no.

For the 100th time, remember the 90's. If Hillary were president 95+% of the antipathy WV has towards Obama for "eastern establisment liberal", etc, would be foisted just as readily on Clinton. As would unease about the economy.

Hillary trouncing Obama in the WV and KY primaries proves zilch about their general election appeal in either state (not unlike Indiana in 08).
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« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2012, 01:55:28 pm »
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So Romney owns WV but is loosing ground in Kentucky?


He isn't a great match for either and were Clinton President, he would probably loose them both to her.

No. Just no.

For the 100th time, remember the 90's. If Hillary were president 95+% of the antipathy WV has towards Obama for "eastern establisment liberal", etc, would be foisted just as readily on Clinton. As would unease about the economy.

Hillary trouncing Obama in the WV and KY primaries proves zilch about their general election appeal in either state (not unlike Indiana in 08).

Agreed. Hillary never had and never will have the same connection with those types of voters that Bill had. She might have made WV closer, but down there, the perception of the Democratic party floating away in a sea of liberalism is greater than any Democratic nominee can overcome.
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« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2012, 05:21:54 pm »
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So Romney owns WV but is loosing ground in Kentucky?


He isn't a great match for either and were Clinton President, he would probably loose them both to her.

No. Just no.

For the 100th time, remember the 90's. If Hillary were president 95+% of the antipathy WV has towards Obama for "eastern establisment liberal", etc, would be foisted just as readily on Clinton. As would unease about the economy.

Hillary trouncing Obama in the WV and KY primaries proves zilch about their general election appeal in either state (not unlike Indiana in 08).

Agreed. Hillary never had and never will have the same connection with those types of voters that Bill had. She might have made WV closer, but down there, the perception of the Democratic party floating away in a sea of liberalism is greater than any Democratic nominee can overcome.

The one poll of WV in 2008 that seems to have asked the McCain-Clinton question was 47 Clinton-42 McCain. It's entirely plausible that he would have made that deficit up in the general election campaign, and if you want to argue that was the likely outcome, be my guest. But it's clearly not totally outlandish to think she could have won WV.


http://www.pollster.com/polls/wv/08-wv-pres-ge-mvc.php?nr=1
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« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2012, 06:08:44 pm »
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The poll with clinton ahead of mccain in 08 was from FEBRUARY. Hardly reliable. An arg poll (I know, I know) in early october had obama up 8. An insider advantage poll (well, they're not arg) a week later had him down only 2.

It's outlandish to believe clinton would've done more than a point or three better than obama, tops.
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« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2012, 06:16:47 pm »
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The poll with clinton ahead of mccain in 08 was from FEBRUARY. Hardly reliable. An arg poll (I know, I know) in early october had obama up 8. An insider advantage poll (well, they're not arg) a week later had him down only 2.

It's outlandish to believe clinton would've done more than a point or three better than obama, tops.
That same poll from February had McCain ahead of Obama, 53-35, while the result in November was 56-43.
Let me be clear. I'm not taking any particular stand on how HRC would have done in WV in 2008. But such evidence as we have points to her having been more than a point or three more popular than Obama.
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« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2012, 10:49:55 pm »
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Obama will be lucky to break 30% in WV this year.  They absolutely hate him there for his war on coal
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« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2012, 10:52:47 pm »
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Obama will be lucky to break 30% in WV this year.  They absolutely hate him there for his war on coal

What war on coal?
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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2012, 10:53:25 pm »
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Obama will be lucky to break 30% in WV this year.  They absolutely hate him there for his war on coal

Lucky to break 30%?  I'm assuming this is a typo...
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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2012, 11:12:09 pm »
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no typo.  He'll be lucky to break 30%  and the 25-30% who will vote for him are insane.

His EPA is doing everything it can to destroy the coal industry.  He has said openly his goal is to bankrupt it
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« Reply #37 on: May 07, 2012, 11:13:07 pm »
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His EPA is doing everything it can to destroy the coal industry.  He has said openly his goal is to bankrupt it

He never said that. Ever.
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« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2012, 11:17:28 pm »
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His EPA is doing everything it can to destroy the coal industry.  He has said openly his goal is to bankrupt it

He never said that. Ever.

Except he did.
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« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2012, 11:26:08 pm »
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Except he did.

That was discredited as a hit piece by The Media designed to hurt him just before the 2008 election.
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« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2012, 11:46:48 pm »
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Whatever the case is, I'll bet a free pizza voucher that Obama breaks 30% in West Virginia.
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« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2012, 10:25:37 am »
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Obama will be lucky to break 30% in WV this year.  They absolutely hate him there for his war on coal

What war on coal?

On the Blankenship Empire.
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