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« on: May 01, 2012, 01:15:12 PM »

Virginia has made a total 180 in less than 10 years
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2012, 05:01:17 PM »

Sadly, those growth areas aren't where real Democrats come from. I'd prefer a tough progressive party to the wishy-washy suburban neoliberals we're getting in the Sunbelt.

well those suburban neo liberals have kept many states blue while the working class dems have been flirting with the GOP for years. Pennsylvania is a good example, it has stayed a democratic state since 1988 thanks to Philly suburbanites consistently voting for the Dem nominee. If democrats hadn't picked up those voters, the Republican trend in western PA would have turned the whole state red.

And really, if these blue collar workers still aren't convinced that the Democratic party is the one truly fighting for them, do we even want them in our coalition?
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2012, 05:09:00 PM »

They're not convinced because Clinton and Obama have sold them out time and time again. Affluent suburbia drags our party to the center because they care more about same-sex marriage than, say, the right to form a union or keeping manufacturing in the United States. They don't care about the worker.

You could say the same thing about many blue collar dems. They also care more about same sex marriage than union rights. Many let GOP cultural talking points cloud the economic issues that really matter. And between Obama and Romney, it's still clear that one man cares more about the average worker than the other one does.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2012, 06:40:53 PM »

I don't see why the democratic party can't fight for both equal rights and economic fairness, as both platforms seek to help the disadvantaged and underprivileged, which has been the base of the party for many years. If certain people can't stomach voting for a party that fights for gay rights and union benefits, then it's their loss.
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