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« Reply #100 on: May 03, 2012, 08:02:01 pm »

Threads combined; I guess I'll keep this on the 2012 board for now. Here's all the OP's from each thread, for your convenience:

Name: Jack McKinley Dawson

Born: October 12, 1954

Location: Pittsburgh PA

Occupation: IAFF member

Political views:

Abortion: Pro-Life

Guns: Pro gun

Making drug testing mandatory for welfare: For it

Same sex Marriage: Anti same sex marriage/LGBT rights

Welfare Reform: For it

Health care reform: For it

Military: Wants a strong, build, powerful, military

Medicare/Social Security spending: Thinks the government shouldn't cut entitlements for the elderly/disabled

Food stamps: Against it

Illegal Immigration: Wants to protect the borders

Minimum Wage: Wants to raise the wage price in PA

Labor unions: Obvious yes is obvious

Death Penalty: For the death penalty

 Affirmative  Action: Think the concept is "reverse discrimination".

Free trade: Against outsourcing jobs overseas 

Education: Send his kids to public schools, though he doesn't mind Catholic schools as an alternative

Civil rights: Thinks black men such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are out to kill the whitey.

 hobbies: Watching football/hockey, listening to classic rock/country music, drinking beer, hanging out with his friends, going to the Catholic Church services

Go forth, real people, and speculate as to the voting habits of these imaginary people:

Jenna - age 21.  Part-time waitress, earns and receives about $13,000/year and pays nothing in tax.  White, comes from a working-class family.  High-school education and is taking classes in Criminal Justice at a local community college.  Receives food stamps and the Earned Income Tax Credit.  Volunteers for her church youth group, has pledged abstinence until marriage.

Sam - age 19.  Private in the US Army, earning about $20,000/year before taxes.  White, comes from a working-class family.  High-school education, joined the army in the hopes of being able to attend college.  Only sometimes goes to church, but when he got his girlfriend pregnant he proposed to her and asked her to keep the baby (she refused and didn't).

Larry - age 66.  Retired autoworker, receiving about $55,000/year before taxes from Social Security and his pension.  White, comes from a middle-class, blue-collar family.  High-school education.  Stopped paying his union dues several years ago, and owns three guns.  Divorced, has 3 children, all of whom are grown, and 2 grandchildren.  Only sometimes goes to church.

Wesley - age 39.  Associate at a law firm, earning about $90,000/year before taxes.  Parents were upper-middle to upper class.  Went to private school, and attended state university for both his undergraduate studies and law school.  Unmarried and without children.  Irreligious.

Arturo - age 44.  Owns a landscaping business, earning about $125,000/year before taxes.  Immigrated from Honduras at age 6, parents were wealthy for Honduras but middle-class in America.  High-school education.  Many of his employees are illegal immigrants, his clients are wealthy McMansion owners.  Married and has 2 children, wants to send both to college.  Very religious and attends church weekly.

David - age 52.  Neurosurgeon, earning about $750,000/year before taxes.  Comes from an upper-middle class family.  Graduated from Columbia and the NYU School of Medicine.  Married, has 2 children in college and a third in private school.  Jewish, attends a Reform synagogue most weeks.
Name: Steven Anderson

Born: June 5, 1973

Location: Los Angeles, CA

Occupation: Janus Mutual Funds (Investor Relations)

Political views:

Abortion: Pro-Life

Guns: Pro gun

Making drug testing mandatory for welfare: Against it

Same sex Marriage: Make same sex legal for US states to decide.

Drugs: Legalize Marijuana, regulate

Welfare Reform: Against it, wants private sector/charities to take over

Health care reform: Privatized

Military: Modern, powerful, small military.

Medicare/Social Security spending: Will spend extra for senior entitlements, make sure they're good.

Food stamps: Against it

Illegal Immigration: Wants to protect the borders

Minimum Wage: Doesn't want them raised

Labor unions: No

Death Penalty: Pro death penalty

Affirmative Action: No

Free trade: Unrestricted free trade

Education: Will send his kids to public school, or private school.  Will do research on public schools based on teachers performance.

Civil rights: Thinks people should have equal rights.

Hobbies: Watching TV golf/gambing, listening to modern rock/smooth jazz, drinking wine or imported beer, hanging out with his close friends, spending time at the country club. Taking kids to Disney World, or other family events. Going to church a few times a year.
Steven: 38 years old, lives in Madison, Wisconsin, has a public sector job and belongs to a union. Is divorced, has one child whom he does not have custody of, hires escorts on a regular basis, drinks alcohol almost every night, frequently uses marijuana, is not religious.

Mike: 23 years old, recent college graduate, now unemployed, just quit his job doing pizza delivery but has a huge trust fund from very affluent parents in the Philly suburbs. Does work at temp agencies to pass the time, lives in Philadelphia, has a girlfriend but is not interested in marriage, spends most of his time going to hardcore and indie rock shows and getting drunk but doesn't do any other drugs, is not religious.

Jenny: 27 years old, went to a Christian university for two years before dropping out, works as a receptionist at a local accounting firm in Denver but is hoping to return to college soon. Attends an evangelical charismatic church with a mostly younger congregation, took an abstinence pledge in her teens but doesn't follow it and didn't with her last boyfriend, is pro-life but supports gay marriage, uses pot with her friends including some people in her church small group.

Joe: 33 years old, lives a Seattle suburb, works at a bank. Is not opposed to gay marriage but does not care much about the issue, is vaguely pro-life but considers it a low priority, supports drug legalization but is personally straightedge, reads Ayn Rand and generally adheres to her philosophy. Supported Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 but was also creeped out by some of the more cult-like supporters. Was engaged last year but ended up breaking it off, is vaguely religious and only attends church on holidays.
Name: Amory Wentworth Blanchefield

Born: April 27, 1978 - Milan, Italy

Location: 730 Park Avenue, NY, NY

Occupation: Private equity

Education: private boarding school, Princeton University '00

Affiliations: SAE, Ivy Club

Religion: Roman Catholic

Net worth: $740 million

Source of wealth: inherited

Political positions:

Abortion: Pro-choice

Guns: Pro-gun

Drug testing for welfare : for it

Same-sex marriage: legal nationwide

Health-care reform: public option


Military: 21st century; restructured to meet new priorities

Medicare/Social Security: Expend M/Phase-in individual accounts over 50 years

Food Stamps: in favor

Illegal immigration: strong borders, but favors Dream Act

Tea Party:  hates it (plebes)

Occupy:  hates it (plebes)

Minimum wage: indexed to CPI

Labor unions: indifferent

Death Penalty: against; for forced de-humanizing unpaid labor

Affirmative action: in favor

Free trade : free trade

Education: will send his children to boarding school, definitely one of the big 10; children to an Ivy

Hobbies: Golf, boar hunting, yatching, wind-surfing

Summering spots: Nantucket, Lake Geneva, Bermuda

Favorite cocktail: Cognac Alexander
How will this 99%er vote?

- Born 1973 in Newport, KY

- Working-class

- Lost a job in 2010

- Pro-Second Amendment

- White male

How would you guess such a person would vote?
Austin: 39 years old, works as an engineer for a Silicon Valley-based corporation and makes a six-figure salary. Lives with a wife and three young children in an affluent San Jose suburb. Nominally Methodist, but only goes to church on Easter and Christmas.

Linda: 53 years old, lives in rural Ohio but travels due to her job as a truck driver. Is unionized. Divorced with two grown children. A practicing Catholic, but due to her job only attends church about once or twice a month. Is alcoholic and overweight due to diner food, and is beginning to question her sexuality late in life.

Daniel:
23 years old, currently an unemployed artist who lives with his parents in Morristown, New Jersey. He and his family are devoted evangelicals, and Daniel and some of his friends are putting together a local Christan Rock band. Abused drugs for a period of time, and has become even more faithful after rehab went relatively smoothly.

Karen: 40 years old, lives with her husband and two children in Bridgeport, Connecticut. She is a prosecuting attorney, while her husband is a stockbroker who commutes daily to New York and generally takes home several million dollars per year. Raised Episcopalian and believes in a God, but not currently a member of any church.
This hypothetical person is gay, atheist, late middle age, "successful" lawyer, Anglo, lives in a suburb, reads a lot on a wide range of topics, has an MBA, supports gun control and gay marriage, thinks public employees are overpaid in general, and is burnt out on US foreign adventures.
Person 1:

Lil Wayne

Eminem

T.I.

Rick Ross

Wiz Khafia

Jay-Z

Drake


Person 2:

LMFAO

Adele

Rihana


Lady GaGa

Katy Petty

Britney Spears

Person 3:

Oasis

Smashing Pumpkins

The Cure

R.E.M

Pearl Jam

Blind Melon

Nirvana


Person 4:

Mozart

Beethoven

Bach

Choplin



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« Reply #101 on: May 03, 2012, 10:24:38 pm »
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All of those four are likely Obama except the second person who probably doesn't vote.

How about:

Person 5:

Jawbreaker
Fugazi
Rites of Spring
Lifetime
Nation of Ulysses
Born Against
Mineral
Sunny Day Real Estate

Person 6:

Slayer
Emperor
Cannibal Corpse
Dimmu Borgir
Mayhem
Morbid Angel
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« Reply #102 on: May 03, 2012, 10:26:56 pm »
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Can this thread not be in the 2012 U.S. Presidential Election board? :/
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« Reply #103 on: May 03, 2012, 11:18:20 pm »
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wormyguy's:

Jenna - depends where she lives, probably Romney as she wasn't in the workforce around Bush.
Sam - Romney, though it depends where he lives.
Larry - most likely Romney.
Wesley - probably Obama.
Arturo - could go either way.
David - Obama.

Torie's one votes Obama.

Vermin Surpreme's:

Person 1 - hip-hop fan, probably black, votes Obama.
Person 2 - pop fan, too young to vote but hypothetically votes Obama.
Person 3 - depends on his age, but probably lean Obama.
Person 4 - arty person....stereotypical Obama supporter.
Person 5 - could be OWS people or Paulites. Hard to say.
Person 6 - metal fans sound like the stereotypical Ron Paul supporter...so reluctantly Romney if they vote.
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« Reply #104 on: May 04, 2012, 04:44:14 am »
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Obama or won't vote

Seriously, anyone who thinks someone who listens to Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins and Oasis will vote for Romney is nuts.

Mainstream Gen-X = lean Romney.

What musical demographics is Romney winning then? It's not going to be just "conservative" music, given how most musicians are liberal.
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« Reply #105 on: May 04, 2012, 04:53:07 am »
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Person 5: Either Obama voters or Paulites

Person 6: Gary johnson
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« Reply #106 on: May 04, 2012, 03:23:04 pm »
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Any more hypothesis on the music fans in my post and BRTD's post?
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« Reply #107 on: May 04, 2012, 03:56:44 pm »
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Francesco: 98, late stage alcoholic.  knew Antonio Gramsci in the 1920s but soon became a Mussolini supporter.  escaped from Stalinists and made it to the USA in 1944.  he lived here illegally working low-wage and shadow economy jobs until the 1986 Reagan immigration reform allowed him to apply for amnesty, for which he is eternally grateful.  since then he has voted Bush, Perot, Clinton, Bush, Bush, and Obama.  he didn't work enough time on the books to draw SS benefits so he lives in abject poverty, but always makes sure to vote and buy cheap red wine.  pro-life, anti-gay marriage as a Roman Catholic.
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« Reply #108 on: May 04, 2012, 06:47:22 pm »
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Francesco: 98, late stage alcoholic.  knew Antonio Gramsci in the 1920s but soon became a Mussolini supporter.  escaped from Stalinists and made it to the USA in 1944.  he lived here illegally working low-wage and shadow economy jobs until the 1986 Reagan immigration reform allowed him to apply for amnesty, for which he is eternally grateful.  since then he has voted Bush, Perot, Clinton, Bush, Bush, and Obama.  he didn't work enough time on the books to draw SS benefits so he lives in abject poverty, but always makes sure to vote and buy cheap red wine.  pro-life, anti-gay marriage as a Roman Catholic.

Romney.
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Francesco: 98, late stage alcoholic.  knew Antonio Gramsci in the 1920s but soon became a Mussolini supporter.  escaped from Stalinists and made it to the USA in 1944.  he lived here illegally working low-wage and shadow economy jobs until the 1986 Reagan immigration reform allowed him to apply for amnesty, for which he is eternally grateful.  since then he has voted Bush, Perot, Clinton, Bush, Bush, and Obama.  he didn't work enough time on the books to draw SS benefits so he lives in abject poverty, but always makes sure to vote and buy cheap red wine.  pro-life, anti-gay marriage as a Roman Catholic.

Romney.
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« Reply #110 on: May 04, 2012, 11:38:33 pm »
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Yeah, anti-communist immigrants are probably more likely to be Republican backers, so Romney.
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« Reply #111 on: May 04, 2012, 11:55:59 pm »
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New person:

Todd, aged 43. Lives in the Bay Area, however grew up in rural California. Parents run a farm. He earns $125,000 per annum in market research. Likes more obscure alternative rock bands. Plays golf on weekends. Married 3 times, and has no kids. Not religious.
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« Reply #112 on: May 05, 2012, 12:02:24 am »
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Person 7: My daughter, Adelaide, if she was 19.
Safe Green party.
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Todd, aged 43. Lives in the Bay Area, however grew up in rural California. Parents run a farm. He earns $125,000 per annum in market research. Likes more obscure alternative rock bands. Plays golf on weekends. Married 3 times, and has no kids. Not religious.

Obama, obviously.
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« Reply #114 on: May 05, 2012, 01:32:25 am »
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I was thinking Obama too, but I also wonder what is the profile of the people in the Bay Area who actually are Republicans.
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« Reply #115 on: May 05, 2012, 02:54:38 am »
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Oh, and something else - he was a veteran in the Gulf War, as his marks weren't good enough to attend uni right away. However, after his time in the navy, he attended Stanford University.
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« Reply #116 on: May 05, 2012, 02:56:10 am »
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I was thinking Obama too, but I also wonder what is the profile of the people in the Bay Area who actually are Republicans.
1%ers most likely.

I'm not gonna give too much away, people are semi-correct on his political allegiance.
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« Reply #117 on: May 05, 2012, 01:21:11 pm »
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If he's voting social issues, Obama. On economic issues, Romney will be his choice. The definition of a swing voter here.
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« Reply #118 on: May 06, 2012, 11:11:36 am »
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Person 7: My daughter, Adelaide, if she was 19.


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« Reply #119 on: May 06, 2012, 01:04:56 pm »
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How about these real life people?

-A girl I saw a couple rows in front of me at church who was holding her arms out to the side the entire time during worship if not raising them in the air. Was wearing a blank shirt, jeans and had one of those club bracelets I made a poll about elsewhere still on, and seemed to be in tears by the closing prayer.
-A group of olds I saw leaving a church near me when I was driving back which is one of the most liberal ones in the city that is actively campaigning against banning gay marriage. All of the olds were very dressed up, with all the men wearing suits and ties and the women wearing fancy dresses.
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« Reply #120 on: May 06, 2012, 06:23:09 pm »
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I've got NGP/VAN access for my county. Does anybody want some actual people profiles (with the names changed, obviously)? I've got a wide array of flavors, including Neoliberal, Dixiecrat, Teabagger and much, much more!
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« Reply #121 on: May 06, 2012, 11:00:16 pm »
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How about these real life people?

-A girl I saw a couple rows in front of me at church who was holding her arms out to the side the entire time during worship if not raising them in the air. Was wearing a blank shirt, jeans and had one of those club bracelets I made a poll about elsewhere still on, and seemed to be in tears by the closing prayer.
-A group of olds I saw leaving a church near me when I was driving back which is one of the most liberal ones in the city that is actively campaigning against banning gay marriage. All of the olds were very dressed up, with all the men wearing suits and ties and the women wearing fancy dresses.

They're both Republicans I assume.
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« Reply #122 on: May 06, 2012, 11:06:35 pm »
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How about

-A poor black woman who voted for Hillary in the 2008 Primary and McCain in the general.


Yeah, I met someone who fit that description.
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« Reply #123 on: May 06, 2012, 11:54:23 pm »
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How about

-A poor black woman who voted for Hillary in the 2008 Primary and McCain in the general.


Yeah, I met someone who fit that description.

Serious?

I'm not sure in that case....probably a toss-up.
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How about

-A poor black woman who voted for Hillary in the 2008 Primary and McCain in the general.


Yeah, I met someone who fit that description.


The most important question to solve this question, does this poor black women approve of Barack Obama? If she says approve, she votes for Obama. Disapproval of Obama, she'd definitely go Romney in the GE.
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