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« on: May 02, 2012, 03:06:01 PM »

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...Aaaaand of course, she denies saying it:

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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2012, 04:12:09 PM »

What a creep.
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2012, 04:25:27 PM »

I normally don't hit women, but if I saw her she probably will get slapped for this stupidity.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2012, 05:23:42 PM »

Not just homophobic, but racist as well. Cool.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2012, 05:30:11 PM »

Now, no fan of this amendment or of sponsoring it, but an "alternative newspaper" says that a "freelance jounalist and activist" told them that a "poll worker" told him that the wife of a cosponsor of the amendment told him, apparently unprompted, something about "preserving the caucasian race."  After this exceedingly-unlikely game of telephone, we have her statement right down to the "uh."  Yeah, that seems pretty unlikely to me.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 04:07:38 AM »
« Edited: May 03, 2012, 04:10:50 AM by Kyro sayz »

Now, no fan of this amendment or of sponsoring it, but an "alternative newspaper" says that a "freelance jounalist and activist" told them that a "poll worker" told him that the wife of a cosponsor of the amendment told him, apparently unprompted, something about "preserving the caucasian race."  After this exceedingly-unlikely game of telephone, we have her statement right down to the "uh."  Yeah, that seems pretty unlikely to me.
That was my first reaction too.

But read that second quote transcripting a conversation between Brunsetter and "Me". Brunsetter could easily have just outright denied mentioning Caucasians and proclaimed the freelance journalist a liar... which is what she would have done if she(Brunsetter) was either telling the truth or a competent liar. Unfortunately for Brunsetter she is clearly an incompotent liar... you need only read the transcript to see that she is both lying and incompotent at lying.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 05:48:38 AM »

I suppose its because the mainstream American definition of racism is different than mine, but I don't see anything explicitly racist in the statement. Wanting your own group to procreate and thrive doesn't necessarily mean you consider other races to be inferior or have prejudices against them.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 06:40:08 AM »

I suppose its because the mainstream American definition of racism is different than mine, but I don't see anything explicitly racist in the statement. Wanting your own group to procreate and thrive doesn't necessarily mean you consider other races to be inferior or have prejudices against them.


True, but who speaks of the 'caucasian race' politically in 2012 without meaning it in an exclusivist fashion?
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 08:05:20 AM »

That was my first reaction too.

But read that second quote transcripting a conversation between Brunsetter and "Me". Brunsetter could easily have just outright denied mentioning Caucasians and proclaimed the freelance journalist a liar... which is what she would have done if she(Brunsetter) was either telling the truth or a competent liar. Unfortunately for Brunsetter she is clearly an incompotent liar... you need only read the transcript to see that she is both lying and incompotent at lying.

I read the second quote, and it doesn't read like she's lying so much as she is confused and doesn't understand the question (which is how someone who had never said that would probably react; a liar would become defensive and angry with the questioner).
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 08:22:39 AM »

My god, it must be a very slow election cycle if this becomes news.

Anyway, this story would've been mindblowingly true and fact if there was a video.  Sadly, there is only the reports of some "poll worker" and a transcript of a conversation.

Not exactly super solid damning evidence in my opinion.  And yes, this is even after reading the transcript.  Though I will admit, the whole "I feel a heat stroke coming on!" quote was a pretty random and desperate sounding defense if she is telling the truth.
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 09:04:22 AM »

Here's a video of the interview/conversation/confrontation, which happened only momentarily after the alleged statements, for the record. And she didn't just say it unprovoked to some random poll-worker; it was in response to a question from someone else at a demonstration outside of an early voting location that an (apparently) off-duty poll worker had overheard, who then complained about it to the 'alternative' journalist who I think was already videotaping his side's demonstration across the street. Scroll down a bit on the page to see the video: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/02/475141/brunstetter-caucasian/?mobile=nc

IMO it's pretty clear she said something questionable; she says that she used the term Caucasian then realizes she probably shouldn't have admitted so, then side-steps/ignores later questions without making any denials.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 09:14:41 AM »

Here's a video of the interview/conversation/confrontation, which happened only momentarily after the alleged statements, for the record. And she didn't just say it unprovoked to some random poll-worker; it was in response to a question from someone else at a demonstration outside of an early voting location that an (apparently) off-duty poll worker had overheard, who then complained about it to the 'alternative' journalist who I think was already videotaping his side's demonstration across the street. Scroll down a bit on the page to see the video: http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/05/02/475141/brunstetter-caucasian/?mobile=nc

IMO it's pretty clear she said something questionable; she says that she used the term Caucasian then realizes she probably shouldn't have admitted so, then side-steps/ignores later questions without making any denials.

Well alright.

I think the heat stroke comment kind of leans towards her saying something she regrets.
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2012, 03:57:58 PM »

I suppose its because the mainstream American definition of racism is different than mine, but I don't see anything explicitly racist in the statement. Wanting your own group to procreate and thrive doesn't necessarily mean you consider other races to be inferior or have prejudices against them.

Yeah, that's kind of a racist sentiment.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2012, 06:35:17 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-a5zmIQKrQ
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2012, 07:54:37 PM »

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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2012, 08:11:53 PM »

I suppose its because the mainstream American definition of racism is different than mine, but I don't see anything explicitly racist in the statement. Wanting your own group to procreate and thrive doesn't necessarily mean you consider other races to be inferior or have prejudices against them.

What purpose do you think specifying any group at all is supposed to serve, then? That the distinction is made in the first place is inherently racist and indicates assigning a higher value of importance to one group over the next.
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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2012, 08:41:22 PM »

I suppose its because the mainstream American definition of racism is different than mine, but I don't see anything explicitly racist in the statement. Wanting your own group to procreate and thrive doesn't necessarily mean you consider other races to be inferior or have prejudices against them.

Yeah, that's kind of a racist sentiment.

^ Seriously.

Not to mention that even if that was a reasonable attitude to have, "caucasian" isn't a thing. What's caucasian culture, for example?
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 09:04:13 PM »
« Edited: May 03, 2012, 09:10:11 PM by Senator Scott »

I suppose its because the mainstream American definition of racism is different than mine, but I don't see anything explicitly racist in the statement. Wanting your own group to procreate and thrive doesn't necessarily mean you consider other races to be inferior or have prejudices against them.


Racist groups have been touting the whole "pro-white, not anti-black" mantra for decades.
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2012, 11:16:50 PM »

I suppose its because the mainstream American definition of racism is different than mine, but I don't see anything explicitly racist in the statement. Wanting your own group to procreate and thrive doesn't necessarily mean you consider other races to be inferior or have prejudices against them.

Yeah, that's kind of a racist sentiment.

^ Seriously.

Not to mention that even if that was a reasonable attitude to have, "caucasian" isn't a thing. What's caucasian culture, for example?
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