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« on: March 28, 2004, 02:46:25 PM »

what do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2004, 02:53:07 PM »

I think we should assassinate him and all other terrorists. Just killing Bin Laden won't stop terrorism but if we kill them all THEN it will!
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2004, 03:14:39 PM »
« Edited: March 28, 2004, 03:22:30 PM by Michael Z »

I doubt killing him will stop Al-Qaeda, as it's simply an umbrella organisation for many other minor terrorist organisation. They'll carry on killing with or without him. But he has to pay for his crimes, so we should put him on trial and/or execute him.

I think we should assassinate him and all other terrorists. Just killing Bin Laden won't stop terrorism but if we kill them all THEN it will!

One problem is that simply killing all terrorists won't make the problem go away. Others will replace them. Yes, we need to target terrorists, but we also have to take out the causes of terrorism, like extreme poverty and political extremism. Which, ironically, goes straight back to your point about stopping aid to third world countries... if we do that we simply create a bigger breeding ground for terrorists.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2004, 03:16:02 PM »

btw, capture him and execute him means execution without trial.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2004, 05:33:31 PM »

It depends. The best thing would of course be to capure him, try him and then execute him...I'm not really in favour of capital punishment, but with bin Laden...however, this doesn't exclude thinking that it wouldn't do much one way or another about terrorism. I think bin laden is burnt after 9/11 is and isn't much of a force anymore.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2004, 06:53:28 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2004, 07:13:21 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2004, 07:28:31 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2004, 07:35:09 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2004, 08:27:32 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...
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« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2004, 02:33:41 AM »

I voted no-OBL is a sick man, who isn't really that powerful in life. If he dies at our hands, however, we're even more screwed then now.

So no, we shouldn't assassinate OBL-we should contain him, and all his supporters-but if we kill them, the problem only gets worse.

I hate the thought of him living another day, though.
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2004, 02:36:44 AM »

Assasinate that Beeeatch and all other beeeatches.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2004, 07:59:50 AM »

I would quite happily condone assasinating this evil person. It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference in stopping terrorism though. In fact it would probably create even more Bin Ladens.
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« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2004, 09:49:29 AM »
« Edited: March 29, 2004, 09:50:12 AM by Old Europe »

Option 3 and 5: "No, it would not stop terrorist attacks" and "No, we should capture him and try him".
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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2004, 03:27:54 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

No I meant those muslim crowds that always gather to celebrate terrorist attacks in the US or Isreal, or to 'protest' the killing of a terrorist like that hamas guy.  They're very conveniently self-selecting by showing up in those large, concentrated groups.
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« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2004, 03:28:55 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2004, 03:45:41 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.

LOL! Cheesy

Why not all the world? Quick and expedient, no?
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2004, 04:05:53 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.

LOL! Cheesy

Why not all the world? Quick and expedient, no?

I LIKE most of the rest of the world.  Like I told you I prefer living abroad - couldn't do that if it were all radioactive.
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« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2004, 04:07:15 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.

LOL! Cheesy

Why not all the world? Quick and expedient, no?

I LIKE most of the rest of the world.  Like I told you I prefer living abroad - couldn't do that if it were all radioactive.

Yeah, but if you look past your personal pleasure and focus on the long-term benefits on national security. No terrorism to worry about. If one has no moral obligations I see no reason not to do so.
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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2004, 04:24:58 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.

LOL! Cheesy

Why not all the world? Quick and expedient, no?

I LIKE most of the rest of the world.  Like I told you I prefer living abroad - couldn't do that if it were all radioactive.

Yeah, but if you look past your personal pleasure and focus on the long-term benefits on national security. No terrorism to worry about. If one has no moral obligations I see no reason not to do so.

What would we sell in Wal-Mart?  Americans would all be running around naked and without CD players.
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« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2004, 04:28:00 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.

LOL! Cheesy

Why not all the world? Quick and expedient, no?

I LIKE most of the rest of the world.  Like I told you I prefer living abroad - couldn't do that if it were all radioactive.

Yeah, but if you look past your personal pleasure and focus on the long-term benefits on national security. No terrorism to worry about. If one has no moral obligations I see no reason not to do so.

What would we sell in Wal-Mart?  Americans would all be running around naked and without CD players.

Nah. America is great enough to handle that. You would have all-American products. Imagine the number of jobs that'd be created. You could prepare the production before you launched.
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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2004, 04:29:34 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.

LOL! Cheesy

Why not all the world? Quick and expedient, no?

I LIKE most of the rest of the world.  Like I told you I prefer living abroad - couldn't do that if it were all radioactive.

Yeah, but if you look past your personal pleasure and focus on the long-term benefits on national security. No terrorism to worry about. If one has no moral obligations I see no reason not to do so.

What would we sell in Wal-Mart?  Americans would all be running around naked and without CD players.

Nah. America is great enough to handle that. You would have all-American products. Imagine the number of jobs that'd be created. You could prepare the production before you launched.

I'm not sure its worth it if Americans have to go back to working in textile and consumer electronics sweatshops.
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« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2004, 04:31:14 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.

LOL! Cheesy

Why not all the world? Quick and expedient, no?

I LIKE most of the rest of the world.  Like I told you I prefer living abroad - couldn't do that if it were all radioactive.

Yeah, but if you look past your personal pleasure and focus on the long-term benefits on national security. No terrorism to worry about. If one has no moral obligations I see no reason not to do so.

What would we sell in Wal-Mart?  Americans would all be running around naked and without CD players.

Nah. America is great enough to handle that. You would have all-American products. Imagine the number of jobs that'd be created. You could prepare the production before you launched.

I'm not sure its worth it if Americans have to go back to working in textile and consumer electronics sweatshops.

You could spare Africa and restore the slave trade to take care of this problem. THey're not a threat anyway. With no other media than the American left, they  probably wouldn't know anyway.
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« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2004, 04:34:27 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.

LOL! Cheesy

Why not all the world? Quick and expedient, no?

I LIKE most of the rest of the world.  Like I told you I prefer living abroad - couldn't do that if it were all radioactive.

Yeah, but if you look past your personal pleasure and focus on the long-term benefits on national security. No terrorism to worry about. If one has no moral obligations I see no reason not to do so.

What would we sell in Wal-Mart?  Americans would all be running around naked and without CD players.

Nah. America is great enough to handle that. You would have all-American products. Imagine the number of jobs that'd be created. You could prepare the production before you launched.

I'm not sure its worth it if Americans have to go back to working in textile and consumer electronics sweatshops.

You could spare Africa and restore the slave trade to take care of this problem. THey're not a threat anyway. With no other media than the American left, they  probably wouldn't know anyway.

Well, on the 'no real threat' argument I could spare most of the world.  In fact the only ones outside the middle east I would consider a threat - Russia and China - are unhittable due to their own arsenals.  And I would never hit S.E. Asia - love the place.
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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2004, 04:48:26 PM »

Assassinate him, all other terrorists, and bomb whatever crowds that form to protest it.


Yeah, that'd be a smart strategy...

I just thought of that one after they assassignated that Hamas guy - all those crowds protesting, all those potential terrorists conveniently gathered together..


Oh, so only Arab protesters then, not Western ones? I thought dropping a bomb on Times Square or Trafalgar Square might be slightly exaggerating the war on terror...

Opebo would drop a bomb on times square. In fact opebo would nuke all of Europe and all the middle east and then Boston, New York, Chicago, SF, and LA, and DC (once Dubya gets outta town). All in the name of fighting terrorism of course ...

You're trying to brand me an extremist - I would confine my nuking to the Middle East.  Heck maybe even just use mini-nukes.

LOL! Cheesy

Why not all the world? Quick and expedient, no?

I LIKE most of the rest of the world.  Like I told you I prefer living abroad - couldn't do that if it were all radioactive.

Yeah, but if you look past your personal pleasure and focus on the long-term benefits on national security. No terrorism to worry about. If one has no moral obligations I see no reason not to do so.

What would we sell in Wal-Mart?  Americans would all be running around naked and without CD players.

Nah. America is great enough to handle that. You would have all-American products. Imagine the number of jobs that'd be created. You could prepare the production before you launched.

I'm not sure its worth it if Americans have to go back to working in textile and consumer electronics sweatshops.

You could spare Africa and restore the slave trade to take care of this problem. THey're not a threat anyway. With no other media than the American left, they  probably wouldn't know anyway.

Well, on the 'no real threat' argument I could spare most of the world.  In fact the only ones outside the middle east I would consider a threat - Russia and China - are unhittable due to their own arsenals.  And I would never hit S.E. Asia - love the place.

It's a question of long-term risks. And AFfrica would only be spared until you had a sufficient number of slaves, then oyu could nuke that as well. And if you do it quick you might be able to take out Russia and China before they know what's going on. You gotta live the life!
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