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will pass by double digits   -25 (58.1%)
will pass narrowly   -15 (34.9%)
will fail by double digits   -2 (4.7%)
will fail narrowly   -1 (2.3%)
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« on: May 05, 2012, 04:09:20 pm »
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unfortunately, option one.  55-45.
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 04:10:28 pm »
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Voted Option 2, though I wasn't happy about it.

53-47.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 05:22:32 pm »
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I think this year's ballot measures will go something like this:

MD approval - Passes by 1-3 points
ME approval - Passes by 7-9 points
MN ban - Fails by 1-3 points
NC ban - Passes by 8-10 points in the May primary (pass more narrowly if it was in November)
WA approval - Passes by 4-6 points
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2012, 08:27:16 pm »

It'll pass narrowly most likely and even has a slim chance of failure now that the Presidential primary is unimportant.  Banning civil unions as well as gay marriage is what will make it so slim. If the sponsors had contented themselves with banning gay marriage alone, it would pass with double digits.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 12:13:41 am »
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It's the South, stupid !

So, double-digits unfortunately.

Besides, 2 people are morons.
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 01:12:55 am »
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BTW:

Man/Woman marriage currently leads 57-37, says SUSA's new poll of likely voters:

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=0466764c-d59a-490d-997e-5b76c057bbf4
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 02:56:49 pm »
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BTW:

Man/Woman marriage currently leads 57-37, says SUSA's new poll of likely voters:

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=0466764c-d59a-490d-997e-5b76c057bbf4

The same poll has respondents say that same sex couples should have legal recognition by a 57-39 margin. Liars.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 03:21:07 pm »
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Might be more hopeful than realistic, but I will say it will fail by 3-4 points.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2012, 11:31:31 pm »
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Unforunately:

For 67%
Against 33%
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 06:38:50 am »
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Unforunately:

For 67%
Against 33%

I'm sure it'll pass but the margin sure as hell isn't going to be that wide.
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2012, 08:03:58 am »
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Option 1, by the current polling margin or a little more, so I think that makes it like 60-40.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2012, 08:31:09 am »
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Option 1, by the current polling margin or a little more, so I think that makes it like 60-40.

This wouldn't shock me but I like mitty's 55-45 prediction.

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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2012, 05:20:32 pm »
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Anyone want to take a last-minute stab at a county map?
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 06:49:55 pm »
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Do we not have a results thread?  Reports are urban-heavy, but closer than I expected:

Yes 53.08%
No 46.92%
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 06:52:46 pm »
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Also, it's currently receiving only 43% among Election Day ballots.  It's early votes that are giving it a win -- 60% for.
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2012, 07:01:46 pm »
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Do we not have a results thread?  Reports are urban-heavy, but closer than I expected:

Yes 53.08%
No 46.92%

I think this is the results thread, though it would probably fit better under the 'Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections' sub-forum.

Where are you getting your results Alcon? I only found this link (Am. 1 is at the bottom of the page): http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/36596/79909/en/summary.html
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2012, 07:02:14 pm »
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Results are very urban-heavy, though, so I suspect it will creep up toward 60% (probably mitigated a bit by the disproportionately Election Day-heavy votes from now on.)

http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/36596/79909/en/vts.html?cid=425000010
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« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2012, 07:09:44 pm »
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The state shouldn't be getting into the marriage business.  And where there are benefits not related to the "holy" or contractual aspects of the union (inheritance, property rights, etc) lets make it equal.  Let a church decide if it will marry someone, but let all the other stuff be equal beyond that.
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2012, 07:47:28 pm »
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Amendment 1 is currently winning roughly 60-40.
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« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2012, 08:59:47 pm »
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Amendment 1 is currently winning roughly 60-40.

We get to oppress gay people again!  Woo hoo!
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« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2012, 10:24:09 pm »
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Not only was this vote bigoted but idiotic too. Now an abusive boyfriend may also get away with spousal abuse, and there is nothing the girlfriend can do either.

EDIT: I also came across that a lot of single mothers and STRAIGHT domestic partners will lose a lot of benefits because of this. I cannot wait to see their faces when they find out that they voted to have their own rights taken away.
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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2012, 10:37:17 pm »
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The state shouldn't be getting into the marriage business.  And where there are benefits not related to the "holy" or contractual aspects of the union (inheritance, property rights, etc) lets make it equal.  Let a church decide if it will marry someone, but let all the other stuff be equal beyond that.

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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2012, 11:49:19 pm »
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Good to see that SurveyUSA starts the 2012 cycle with good results ... Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2012, 12:09:50 am »
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Let a church decide if it will marry someone, but let all the other stuff be equal beyond that.

Jesus Christ will take care of his church.  But we're not willing to sit silently and leave the soul of America to the opinions of the apostates.
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2012, 12:33:41 am »
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Let a church decide if it will marry someone, but let all the other stuff be equal beyond that.

Jesus Christ will take care of his church.  But we're not willing to sit silently and leave the soul of America to the opinions of the apostates.

What is America's soul?

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