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« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2012, 06:45:22 am »
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The Guardian is now reporting polls suggesting that Sabahy may have pushed Shafiq into third, but let's see.
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« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2012, 06:49:21 am »
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Wait, wasn't Moussa expected to win ? This looks like an upset.
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« Reply #52 on: May 25, 2012, 06:56:52 am »
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Wait, wasn't Moussa expected to win ? This looks like an upset.

Moussa was the favorite, then Fotouh, then Shafiq, according to polling. So yeah, this'd be an upset.
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« Reply #53 on: May 25, 2012, 07:07:26 am »
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Well, I guess the only good thing, considering who's in the runoff, is that the Egyptian people were at least able to make a free decision, instead of voting in yet another referendum to give Mubarak another term.

Of course, 2005 election was a joke. Btw, I remember reading somewhere that Nasser, before his death, promised to have an open presidential election "once results of the 1967 defeat are liquidated". 
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« Reply #54 on: May 25, 2012, 07:27:49 am »
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Why is everyone here supporting Sabahy, the nasserist?
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« Reply #55 on: May 25, 2012, 07:53:04 am »
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Why is everyone here supporting Sabahy, the nasserist?

Cause he's a democrat and a secularist, and the other options are either Brotherhood (Fotouh, Morsi) or ex-regime (Shafiq, Moussa).
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« Reply #56 on: May 25, 2012, 07:57:25 am »
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He's the only leftist likely to win there and Nasserism sh**ts all over the other options.
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« Reply #57 on: May 25, 2012, 07:58:34 am »
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He's the only leftist likely to win there and Nasserism sh**ts all over the other options.
Yes, let's wipe Israel off the map! And didn't Morsy promise democracy? It seems like he won't turn into a dictator or anything.
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« Reply #58 on: May 25, 2012, 08:00:52 am »
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« Reply #59 on: May 25, 2012, 09:00:19 am »
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He's the only leftist likely to win there and Nasserism sh**ts all over the other options.
Yes, let's wipe Israel off the map! And didn't Morsy promise democracy? It seems like he won't turn into a dictator or anything.

First of all, Nasserism is something far more complex.

Second of all, war of 1967 happened well over 40 years ago.
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« Reply #60 on: May 25, 2012, 09:32:28 am »
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There are some unconfirmed reports that Sabahi might be second, but all official sources say that Shafiq is second.

Nasserism in Egypt is viewed as a good thing, Egyptians love Nasser.
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« Reply #61 on: May 25, 2012, 10:07:24 am »
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Cairo and Giza aren't fully in yet, but still...


Mursi 4,406,782 (26.48 per cent)
Shafiq 4,115,840 (24.74 per cent)
Sabbahi 3,329,519 (20.01 per cent)
Abul-Fotouh 2,959,937 (17.79 per cent)
Moussa 1,778,244 (10.69 per cent)

Those numbers are pretty bad.
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« Reply #62 on: May 25, 2012, 10:10:03 am »
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In my opinion, Shafiq may have received some Brotherhood's tactical votes. They want an unelectable to get presidency.
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« Reply #63 on: May 25, 2012, 10:54:45 am »
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He's the only leftist likely to win there and Nasserism sh**ts all over the other options.
Yes, let's wipe Israel off the map! And didn't Morsy promise democracy? It seems like he won't turn into a dictator or anything.

First of all, Nasserism is something far more complex.

Second of all, war of 1967 happened well over 40 years ago.
Yeah, that was really really really stupid. But I would like a winner to keep the peace treaty, and I trust Morsi to do that more than Sabbahi.
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« Reply #64 on: May 25, 2012, 11:57:08 am »
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He's the only leftist likely to win there and Nasserism sh**ts all over the other options.
Yes, let's wipe Israel off the map! And didn't Morsy promise democracy? It seems like he won't turn into a dictator or anything.

First of all, Nasserism is something far more complex.

Second of all, war of 1967 happened well over 40 years ago.
Yeah, that was really really really stupid. But I would like a winner to keep the peace treaty, and I trust Morsi to do that more than Sabbahi.

Even the Muslim Brotherhood is favoring honoring the peace treaty. 
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« Reply #65 on: May 25, 2012, 12:18:33 pm »
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Wait, wasn't Moussa expected to win ? This looks like an upset.
Supposed, not expected. Tongue
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« Reply #66 on: May 25, 2012, 12:22:20 pm »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YDny8KqE-U&feature=player_embedded

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« Reply #67 on: May 25, 2012, 12:33:47 pm »
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A quick look over the data here shows that the percentages and turnout data are wrong; according the national summary the eight also-rans received a total of paltry 0.3%. The cause of that is that for most governorates, the vote total given is actually just the sum of the five top candidates', yet some (how many? I didn't check. I checked a few and didn't find any, to be precise) are actual totals.
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« Reply #68 on: May 25, 2012, 12:49:54 pm »
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He's the only leftist likely to win there and Nasserism sh**ts all over the other options.
Yes, let's wipe Israel off the map! And didn't Morsy promise democracy? It seems like he won't turn into a dictator or anything.

First of all, Nasserism is something far more complex.

Second of all, war of 1967 happened well over 40 years ago.
Yeah, that was really really really stupid. But I would like a winner to keep the peace treaty, and I trust Morsi to do that more than Sabbahi.

Even the Muslim Brotherhood is favoring honoring the peace treaty.  

No one is talking about actual war, and even breaking relations is pretty much off the table. Most candidates have spoken of "revising" the treaty, and that probably means remilitarizing the Sinai.

While that scares the Israelis due to the possibility of a future war, they have actually been negatively effected by the lawlessness of the Sinai since the revolution. If the Israelis maintain a certain level of trust with the Egyptian government once the dust settles, I don't think they would necessarily object to a partial remilitarization.
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« Reply #69 on: May 25, 2012, 01:08:53 pm »
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Gizeh now in. Gap narrows a little, but no way Cairo is going to change that.

Still, a better than expected result for the candidate I would most likely have voted for, so... Smiley
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« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2012, 01:10:48 pm »
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These results will make for great mapping once Cairo is in (wink wink nudge nudge).
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« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2012, 01:36:20 pm »
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A Mubarakist vs. the Muslim Brotherhood? D'oh. Not unexpected. But d'oh.
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« Reply #72 on: May 25, 2012, 01:36:33 pm »
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And here it is, tho' they didn't bother to include Moussa.

National Total
Mursi 5.55mio votes
Shafiq 5.21mio votes
Sabbahi 4.74mio votes
Futtuh 3.94mio votes
Moussa (excl. Cairo) 2.01mio votes
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« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2012, 01:37:49 pm »

A Mubarakist vs. the Muslim Brotherhood? D'oh. Not unexpected. But d'oh.

They were inspired by America.
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« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2012, 01:51:15 pm »
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A Mubarakist vs. the Muslim Brotherhood? D'oh. Not unexpected. But d'oh.

Well, that's what happens when the pro-Revolution, anti-MB vote is split between 3 candidates.

Morsi's off to an easy win.

The pathetic voter turnout's probably a worse sign than the result, TBH.  I was hearing 46% turnout.
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