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« on: May 06, 2012, 12:20:17 pm »
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This is a notification that I'm running for the NE Senate seat, which I understand is currently held by Wormyguy. I will not pretend to be some sort of moderate with all sorts of plans for the Atlasian Future. Rather, I'm a dogmaticist who will be an unreflexive vote for whatever the Tweedist cause requires from the Senate. I will probably be absent a lot and only turn up to vote on some select bits of legislation.

I will still be an improvement.
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« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 12:21:12 pm »
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Actually, I'm the incumbent.  Wormyguy is an At-large Senator.
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« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 12:25:01 pm »
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Ah sorry about that. You wouldn't know who else is standing by any chance?
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« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2012, 12:25:54 pm »
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No one else yet but there is always a right wing candidate.
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2012, 12:26:49 pm »
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What do you mean?  If you mean in terms of the NE Senate election, you are currently my only opponent.  The At-large Senate elections won't be until August.

I will probably be absent a lot and only turn up to vote on some select bits of legislation.

Yankee would love this. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 01:28:24 pm »
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What do you mean?  If you mean in terms of the NE Senate election, you are currently my only opponent.  The At-large Senate elections won't be until August.

I will probably be absent a lot and only turn up to vote on some select bits of legislation.

Yankee would love this. Tongue

Yeah.. that single line has doomed any chance of me even giving him a preference, as it should Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 04:10:34 pm »
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Yeah.. that single line has doomed any chance of me even giving him a preference, as it should Tongue

Wait... that and the "Tweedist" BS isn't an attempt at humor?
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 05:10:52 pm »
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Au contraire, I am fully dedicated to a radical overhaul of the Atlasian 'state' and all of its institutions, as outlined by major presidential candidate Young Tweed. (The need to get rid of IRV, a return to a complete integration of the Atlasian project into the forum at large,...). This programme requires support in the legislative branch as well as full control of the executive branch.

'Tweedism' is no more than a portemanteau, a signifier that can serve to rally those dedicated to a revival of our republic. We are not a cult of personality, but a revolutionary vanguard.
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2012, 05:24:38 pm »
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Repeal of IRV + integration of Atlasia into the wider forum aren't bad ideas, but little has been said about how the latter could be accomplished.

Tweedism is blatant egoism and entirely masturbatory. You and the rest of the "vanguard" could prove otherwise, but like Cincinnatus, I won't vote for someone who declares that they'll  frequently be absent. If you reject the terms of a discussion you should be there to elucidate why, with passion.
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2012, 05:35:55 pm »
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I'm not 'rejecting' the terms of the discussion, I'm openly admitting what I'll be: a reliable vote for the sort of change the Tweed campaign has outlined. I'll be an invisible man, not obscuring the cause with my personality. It would be idiotic for me to promise to post in every single Senate thread, when at the very heart of the 'ideology' I'm propagating is the idea is that the Senate is occupying itself with all sort of irrelevant little bits of nonsense.

Who cares about the system of taxation? Who cares about our defense budget? Atlasia is about the elections and about the drama that accompanies them. I will only vote on relevant legislation.

The terms of discussion are in the process of rejecting themselves.
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2012, 05:43:41 pm »
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Atlasia is about the elections and about the drama that accompanies them.

Agreed! But why does this preclude discussion of made-up issues? Doesn't the debate heighten the drama?
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2012, 05:48:13 pm »
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Atlasia is about the elections and about the drama that accompanies them.

Agreed! But why does this preclude discussion of made-up issues? Doesn't the debate heighten the drama?

It is the required catalyst. Tweedism would never work.
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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2012, 05:50:22 pm »
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I'm not 'rejecting' the terms of the discussion, I'm openly admitting what I'll be: a reliable vote for the sort of change the Tweed campaign has outlined. I'll be an invisible man, not obscuring the cause with my personality. It would be idiotic for me to promise to post in every single Senate thread, when at the very heart of the 'ideology' I'm propagating is the idea is that the Senate is occupying itself with all sort of irrelevant little bits of nonsense.

Who cares about the system of taxation? Who cares about our defense budget? Atlasia is about the elections and about the drama that accompanies them. I will only vote on relevant legislation.

The terms of discussion are in the process of rejecting themselves.

I disagree.  I don't post or argue for every single bill that comes to the Senate, but debate is what keeps the game active as well as elections.  The game tends to suffer when we elect do-nothing or say-nothing senators.  We had to expel a senator a few weeks ago for this reason, actually.
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 11:40:19 am »
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http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=153236.0
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 04:20:07 pm »
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Tweedism is blatant egoism and entirely masturbatory. You and the rest of the "vanguard" could prove otherwise

this I find borderline offensive - Tweedism is, yes, egoistic on my part (and, in my last video, I defend that - why shouldn't I be allowed to have fun?  why play a game if it can't be fun?), but someone as intelligent as Belgian would not be attracted to it if it were substance free.  it is clear to anyone who pays any attention that I share a deep emotional connection with this place and its fate (and even Napoleon implicitly concedes this, only offering the vague 'it wouldn't work' as an excuse for resting on the old statal, anti-behavioral laurels.)
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2012, 04:43:47 pm »
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Tweedism is blatant egoism and entirely masturbatory. You and the rest of the "vanguard" could prove otherwise

this I find borderline offensive - Tweedism is, yes, egoistic on my part (and, in my last video, I defend that - why shouldn't I be allowed to have fun?  why play a game if it can't be fun?), but someone as intelligent as Belgian would not be attracted to it if it were substance free.  it is clear to anyone who pays any attention that I share a deep emotional connection with this place and its fate (and even Napoleon implicitly concedes this, only offering the vague 'it wouldn't work' as an excuse for resting on the old statal, anti-behavioral laurels.)

You certainly should have fun.  FTR, I actually enjoy the fact that you're making it interesting by running, I just won't vote for you Wink
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2012, 05:02:41 pm »
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You're the blind prophet of Atlasia, Tweed.

By the way, none of my criticism is meant to suggest that your involvement hasn't made the game more fun and interesting. (I just don't believe that electing you or other Tweedists would.)
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2012, 05:25:59 pm »
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Official Campaign Song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHkqcS503bg
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2012, 05:57:35 pm »
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should be vsyo idyt po planu or w/e
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2012, 06:02:02 pm »
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should be vsyo idyt po planu or w/e

That's true, actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNxKkbGRCY
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2012, 03:57:58 pm »
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Friends, countrymen, &cetera.

One 'issue' that's recently popped up in this 'game' is whether or not our regions should be redrawn. The Pacific and the Midwest, we are told, have too few 'active' members to function 'properly', as was recently demonstrated by the Pacific's inability to organise their gubernatorial election. Another example? The sorry state of the 'Althing', testament to the failure of 'participative democracy' in the MidWest.*

Let us not be fooled! This 'issue' is a mere attempt to divert our attention from the actual problems facing Atlasia. Rather than 'merging' the Pacific and the MidWest as some seem ready to suggest (, thus obviously eliminating a solidly 'liberal' senate seat), we should pay attention to the causes of inactivity. Tweedism is the movement of Atlasian Regeneration today, tough on inactivity, tough on the causes of inactivity.

What Atlasia needs is a new inspiration, a new source of passion. Something to fight for and something to loath. Who can feel passion about the drab, abstract 'legislation' debated in our Senate? Who could care about our boring succesion presidential elections between hordes of centre-right consensus tickets and 'joke tickets' (The actual joke being the suggestion that since X 'has put a lot of work in the game' and 'has worked hard' at his 'platform' consisting out of tedious platitudes, he makes 'a good president'). We need but look at the current administration to know what I'm talking about.

To fix the problem we need but elect Tweed to the presidency and myself and 2 or three others to the Senate. In addition to that we might consider switching to Senate Districts rather than the current regions, without changing anything about the regional map. (As was championed by that great Atlasian veteran, ilikeverin.)

Keep this in mind when you're asked what you could mean for 'Atlasia'.

Vale!


*: And how could a project so drastically opposed to the principles on which Atlasia as an 'election game' was built, ever have been succesful? One should recognise a contradiction in terminis when one encounters it.


Felt inspired just now.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2012, 08:42:30 pm »
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Repeal Senate, introduce Parliament, bill coming to Senate near you soon, click on my signature for more information.
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2012, 09:50:52 pm »
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Just two things I wanted to respond to.

Who can feel passion about the drab, abstract 'legislation' debated in our Senate?

People who care strongly about the issues, I'd thought...

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Who could care about our boring succesion presidential elections between hordes of centre-right consensus tickets and 'joke tickets' (The actual joke being the suggestion that since X 'has put a lot of work in the game' and 'has worked hard' at his 'platform' consisting out of tedious platitudes, he makes 'a good president').

Atlasia is very center-left.  Also, I don't see how activity doesn't make for a good president.  Ideology is important, but activity and governing style are just as important.
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« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2012, 02:43:28 pm »
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Also, your presence is needed here.
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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2012, 03:19:00 pm »
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The sorry state of the 'Althing', testament to the failure of 'participative democracy' in the MidWest.*

Don't blame me, I was fighting for an elected legislature, but Ilikeverin and co. considered that not funny enough Tongue
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