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Question: Of the three GOP factions, which will be the first to leave?
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Defense (a la John McCain)
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Fiscal (a la Mitt Romney)
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Moral (a la Rick Santorum)
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Indy Prez
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« on: May 07, 2012, 07:16:23 AM »
« edited: May 07, 2012, 07:23:44 AM by Indy Prez »

Defense = Blue
Moral = Yellow
Fiscal = Green
All = Red (untraditional unlike daveleip, I know)
DEMOCRATIC NO-GO = Grey

The varying hues of colour represent the corresponding degree of influence the faction holds in that state.
E.g. In the case of a DARK red state like Minnesota, all factions are of essentially equal importance and require greater PAC funding to help swing their traditionally Democratic asses.



Use maps to represent future election matchups with your chosen faction dropped from the party. And to discuss would be a plus!
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Indy Prez
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2012, 03:52:20 PM »

Fiscal for me.

The Dems have already proven themselves to be the more fiscally conservative party since 1992, and with the Democratic and Republican rises of Andrew Cuomo and Pat Toomey, respectively, I think the trends show this to be true.

Moral is stronger than ever and was the last faction to be brought aboard (1980), after Neocons (1968) and libertarians(1920).
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 12:27:53 PM »

Certainly, at the national level in terms of Presidencies: Carter, Clinton, Obama didn't cut taxes aggressively and we law the paying off of deficits under the former two.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2012, 04:47:22 PM »

Yes, but if it's a Mitt Romney-Rand Paul ticket come November, they say goodbye to all the more pickupable women and conservative catholic voters they could pick up with a Martinez/Bachmann/Jindal VP slot and a Terri Schiavo-ey issue plank. And they've been after those voters since 2000. Logically, the Moral majority is less likely to run to a party with abortion and amnesty as it's base than a GOP, hence their importance and the greater likelihood of a Romney-Jindal ticket. Austerity Democrats like Andy Cuomo, Tim kaine, Hillary Clinton and even Barry (as we will discover during his 2nd term) are the money-raising dominant force in the UnDemocratic Party. The working class has been trending Republican for decades (West Virginia). trends, man. that's the key word.

Cuomo DLC =Future home of fiscal conservaticrats
Pat Toomer GOP = tuk er jobs, no taxes, whats default mean spendublican

No way will the GOP abandom it's religiounut plank in favour of Gary Johnson's libertarian brand, though you guys will become a MAJOR thrid party come the next election taking states from the dems (NH, NV) but Hispanics will become Republican with the rise of George P Bush, Brian Sandoval and Susana  Martinez.

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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2012, 06:32:58 AM »

Nice maps, Steve.

I agree with the latter theorem you posited. We are seeing the fiscal wing splinter in this election with Gary Johnson's libertarian bid, Romney's declaration of support for pro-life candidates would preclude the nomination of any of the realistic Defense candidates for the VP nomination (the GOP faction Obama will be most likely to garner votes from) and the religious wing will likely sit on their hands even if he does pick Bobby Jindal, Brian Sandoval or another Paliniser, out of hopelessness or distrust. I see no way Romney cannot get clobbered in this election.

Cuomo-Warren 2016
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2012, 01:42:10 PM »
« Edited: June 24, 2012, 09:56:57 AM by Indy Prez »

There will always be a paleoconservative movement in the United States. By 2040, America will undoubtedly have elected a female President, and an overwhelming majority will be more supportive of Americans gay rights than not. But Terri Schiavo will not go away (at least not in spirit); and euthanasia, abortion and capital punishment will remain polarizing issues.

It's all very relative to the times.
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