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« on: May 07, 2012, 05:03:59 pm »
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It's never been done before, from what I've seen.  So what if Gore was elected President in 2000, with Lieberman as VP, defeated in 2004, then Lieberman comes back and wins in 2008?  He would do well in the Democratic primaries (with Gore's endorsement), and perhaps with John McCain's as well; maybe even John McCain as VP or Secretary of Defense.  What do you think?

(Obviously it would be easier for Lieberman to win in 2008 as the incumbent VP but this scenario just seems more realistic to me.  Or he could be picked for VP by Cinton in 1992, and run as the incumbent VP in 2000.)
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 05:07:51 pm »
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Yeah. Sounds interesting.
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 05:33:26 pm »
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I like it. An interesting twist would be a "Battle of the Centrists" TL, with Giuliani being the one to defeat Gore in 2004 and setting up a Giuliani vs. Lieberman battle in 2008.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 06:01:08 pm »
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I like it. An interesting twist would be a "Battle of the Centrists" TL, with Giuliani being the one to defeat Gore in 2004 and setting up a Giuliani vs. Lieberman battle in 2008.

Sounds kinda like this year Wink
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 06:28:25 pm »
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What about an alternative Election 2000 scenario in which there's a 269-269 electoral college tie, and the House deadlocks on electing a president, but the Senate elects Lieberman as VP....thus causing Lieberman to step in as acting prez?  9/11 and the beginning of the War on Terror then happens at a time when the POTUS is a Democratic hawk, who also happens to be Jewish.
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2012, 03:41:06 pm »
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I like it. An interesting twist would be a "Battle of the Centrists" TL, with Giuliani being the one to defeat Gore in 2004 and setting up a Giuliani vs. Lieberman battle in 2008.

Man, I already had something like that planned (but with a diff. '08 candidate).
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2012, 08:49:56 pm »
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I like it. An interesting twist would be a "Battle of the Centrists" TL, with Giuliani being the one to defeat Gore in 2004 and setting up a Giuliani vs. Lieberman battle in 2008.

Man, I already had something like that planned (but with a diff. '08 candidate).

If its who I think it is, then they wouldn't run against each other
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2012, 08:54:13 pm »
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What about an alternative Election 2000 scenario in which there's a 269-269 electoral college tie, and the House deadlocks on electing a president, but the Senate elects Lieberman as VP....thus causing Lieberman to step in as acting prez?  9/11 and the beginning of the War on Terror then happens at a time when the POTUS is a Democratic hawk, who also happens to be Jewish.


What if the states vote the same, 1 Bush elector votes for McCain, and 1 for Lieberman or Nader?  Or both for McCain?  That would reduce W. to the deadlock-required 269 EVs.  But I'm not certain of the constitutionality of that; I'll have to ask my history teacher
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2012, 06:03:31 pm »
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Would not be remotely interested.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 02:00:43 am »
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What about an alternative Election 2000 scenario in which there's a 269-269 electoral college tie, and the House deadlocks on electing a president, but the Senate elects Lieberman as VP....thus causing Lieberman to step in as acting prez?  9/11 and the beginning of the War on Terror then happens at a time when the POTUS is a Democratic hawk, who also happens to be Jewish.


Or Gore wins in 2000 and happens to be visiting the Pentagon on September 11.
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2012, 02:07:02 am »
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Listening to LyingMan in the 2004 Democratic debates was just awful. It was so painfully obvious that he was pants on fire lying every time he opened his mouth.
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2012, 04:48:57 am »
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What about an alternative Election 2000 scenario in which there's a 269-269 electoral college tie, and the House deadlocks on electing a president, but the Senate elects Lieberman as VP....thus causing Lieberman to step in as acting prez?  9/11 and the beginning of the War on Terror then happens at a time when the POTUS is a Democratic hawk, who also happens to be Jewish.


Or Gore wins in 2000 and happens to be visiting the Pentagon on September 11.

Actually, that one's a really good idea.  An alt-timeline in which the president dies on 9/11, and the VP has to take over.  You could either change the details of the 9/11 plot so that the assassination was planned, or you could make it a coincidence.
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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2012, 05:54:58 pm »
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As much as I cringe at the possibility, I would be interested to see how it plays out. Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2012, 05:51:04 pm »
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As much as I cringe at the possibility, I would be interested to see how it plays out. Tongue

Thanks. Smiley And while the above 9/11 suggestion sounds great, I have instead made Lieberman Slick Willy's VP, after a brutal primary campaign against gore in 92 (and gore resigns his senate seat to focus on the campaign, and if I recall he was having some personal issues at the time as well, so it seems logical he'd pick one job to focus on completely)

You can see it in the main thread, its called "Hello Joe!", changed from "A Democrat with Balls!"
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2012, 07:59:14 pm »
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Lieberman was a trader in 2008 so i have no good words
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2012, 04:56:34 pm »
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Lieberman was a trader in 2008 so i have no good words

So was McCain; he approached Kerry about being his running mate in 04
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Endorsements:
President: Hillary Clinton
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House: Emken (CA)
Other: Rob McCoy (CA Assembly)

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