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Question: select your three favorites
Vladimir Lenin   -9 (14.1%)
Rosa Luxemberg   -6 (9.4%)
Antonio Gramsci   -9 (14.1%)
Joseph Stalin   -2 (3.1%)
Leon Trotsky   -6 (9.4%)
Mao Zedong   -3 (4.7%)
Nikita Khrushchev   -5 (7.8%)
Che Guevara   -2 (3.1%)
Fidel Castro   -3 (4.7%)
Enver Hoxha   -2 (3.1%)
Leonid Brezhnev   -0 (0%)
Nicolae Ceausescu   -2 (3.1%)
Josip Broz Tito   -9 (14.1%)
William Zebulon Foster   -3 (4.7%)
Earl Browder   -1 (1.6%)
Walter Ulbricht   -1 (1.6%)
Erich Honecker   -0 (0%)
Kim Il-Sung   -1 (1.6%)
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« on: May 08, 2012, 03:52:05 pm »
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I purposely exempted the 'reformists' (Nagy, Dubcek, Deng, Gorbachev), revisionists or pro-WWI or non-revolutionary socialists (incl. Kautsky through the Eurocommunists, Allende...) and included Castro.

the top 4 will advance to the second round.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 03:53:44 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 04:17:12 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2012, 04:33:18 pm »
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Lenin, Tito and Gramsci
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2012, 04:38:20 pm »
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Well that depends, what are their scores?
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 05:28:46 pm »
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I'll pick the most interesting: Mao, Kim Ill Sung, and Ceaceswhatever.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 05:31:16 pm »
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I guess I'll vote for Lenin.  But only because of this.



Also, why is Pol Pot not included?
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 05:49:40 pm »
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Also, why is Pol Pot not included?

Ho Chi Minh was probably the greater oversight.
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OK, I looked up their scores, and I would like to change my vote.  I'm happy with my Mao and Stalin votes, but I would like to change my Lenin vote to Breschnev, who apparently did a lot of good works in Afghanistan.  Lenin barely ranks at all.
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Also, why is Pol Pot not included?

Damn, you're right.

1) Mao
2) Stalin
3) Pol Pot
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What about the Laotian dictators?
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2012, 06:51:44 pm »
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OK, I looked up their scores, and I would like to change my vote.  I'm happy with my Mao and Stalin votes, but I would like to change my Lenin vote to Breschnev, who apparently did a lot of good works in Afghanistan.  Lenin barely ranks at all.

Richard Nixon and LBJ are on that list.

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...because all of my selections would fall into one of the categories of folks you exempted, Tweed.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 07:29:20 pm »
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2012, 07:38:29 pm »
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OK, I looked up their scores, and I would like to change my vote.  I'm happy with my Mao and Stalin votes, but I would like to change my Lenin vote to Breschnev, who apparently did a lot of good works in Afghanistan.  Lenin barely ranks at all.

Good lord man, this is low. Even for you.
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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2012, 07:49:05 pm »
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Hoxha (who built 750,000 one-man bunkers around Albania for fun), Ceaucescuceucesceau, and the Zebulon guy.
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None of the Above.
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« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2012, 11:25:05 pm »
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Antonio Gramsci, naturally.
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2012, 01:03:47 am »
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OK, I looked up their scores, and I would like to change my vote.  I'm happy with my Mao and Stalin votes, but I would like to change my Lenin vote to Breschnev, who apparently did a lot of good works in Afghanistan.  Lenin barely ranks at all.

Good lord man, this is low. Even for you.
I disagree.  He (or at least the character he plays here) has never hid the fact that he loves the murdering of "the poors".


And when do the "BLANK isn't a communist!!!!!!111one" guys get here?
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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2012, 10:20:54 am »
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Who (other than opebo) would be able to pick three from that list and not pick Gramsci?
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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2012, 11:40:51 am »
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Yeah, this really shouldn't be any kind of contest...
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2012, 11:53:06 am »
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Who (other than opebo) would be able to pick three from that list and not pick Gramsci?
Wouldn't have been that hard if I'd wanted to. But I chose to include him anyways. Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2012, 01:26:53 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2012, 01:36:46 pm »
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Tito, Trotsky, and Gramsci, I suppose.
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