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« on: May 08, 2012, 06:03:46 pm »
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Viewing child pornography online isn't a crime, the New York Court of Appeals ruled Tuesday in the case of a college professor whose work computer was found to have stored more than a hundred illegal images in its Web cache.

The court dismissed one of the two counts of promoting a sexual performance of a child and one of the dozens of counts of possession of child pornography on which James D. Kent was convicted. The court upheld the other counts against Kent, an assistant professor of public administration at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.

Kent who said at his sentencing that he "abhorred" child pornography and argued that someone else at Marist must have placed the images on his computer was sentenced to one to three years in state prison in August 2009.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/08/11602955-viewing-child-porn-on-the-web-legal-in-new-york-state-appeals-court-finds?lite
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 06:15:54 pm »
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It's still illegal to host it but I have to say that I don't like the idea of the government being able to fine/incarcerate people for seeing something
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 06:35:56 pm »
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Though I consider such material disgusting, I think that possessing or viewing it causes no harm.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2012, 07:49:28 pm »

Though I consider such material disgusting, I think that possessing or viewing it causes no harm.

The creation of it, especially the pre-pubescent junk, does cause harm.  Coming down hard on the possession and viewing of it is intended to discourage the demand that leads to it being made.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2012, 07:58:42 pm »
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Though I consider such material disgusting, I think that possessing or viewing it causes no harm.

The creation of it, especially the pre-pubescent junk, does cause harm.  Coming down hard on the possession and viewing of it is intended to discourage the demand that leads to it being made.

a line of logic that has worked out well in the other areas it has been tried.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2012, 08:08:50 pm »

Though I consider such material disgusting, I think that possessing or viewing it causes no harm.

The creation of it, especially the pre-pubescent junk, does cause harm.  Coming down hard on the possession and viewing of it is intended to discourage the demand that leads to it being made.

a line of logic that has worked out well in the other areas it has been tried.

Yes and no.  Unlike those other areas, there is already a fairly small demand for pre-pubescent porn, there is no way to claim its production is at worst self-inflicted harm, and last but not least, the public support for treating all offenders harshly instead of a select subset of offenders is there.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 08:18:33 pm »
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What if you click on a link [or your browser clicks on one for you, as often happens] and it takes you to a child porn site and doesn't let you close the window, and then somebody happens to be walking by at that moment? Or what if you visit a site that secretly downloads material onto your hard drive without your knowledge? Sure, one might be acquitted in the above cases, but you could still be bankrupted by legal fees, lose your job, and be permanently tarred for life.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 08:28:28 pm »
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What if you click on a link [or your browser clicks on one for you, as often happens] and it takes you to a child porn site and doesn't let you close the window, and then somebody happens to be walking by at that moment? Or what if you visit a site that secretly downloads material onto your hard drive without your knowledge? Sure, one might be acquitted in the above cases, but you could still be bankrupted by legal fees, lose your job, and be permanently tarred for life.
Or if your cat steps on your keyboard and downloads 10,000 images!
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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2012, 08:31:03 pm »
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What if you click on a link [or your browser clicks on one for you, as often happens] and it takes you to a child porn site and doesn't let you close the window, and then somebody happens to be walking by at that moment? Or what if you visit a site that secretly downloads material onto your hard drive without your knowledge? Sure, one might be acquitted in the above cases, but you could still be bankrupted by legal fees, lose your job, and be permanently tarred for life.
Or if your cat steps on your keyboard and downloads 10,000 images!

An innocent person's life could be ruined by big government. I'm against that.
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2012, 08:46:40 pm »
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I wonder when we'll all agree something is bad.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2012, 08:48:27 pm »
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how about nationalizing child porn and allowing pedophiles to purchase it from the government at a nominal cost.  perhaps levy a sin tax on it.  harm reduction.
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2012, 09:41:58 pm »
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how about nationalizing child porn and allowing pedophiles to purchase it from the government at a nominal cost.  perhaps levy a sin tax on it.  harm reduction.

How is the child porn being sold by the government going to be produced?
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2012, 10:02:42 pm »

This thread is quickly heading into soon-to-be-locked territory.
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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2012, 10:09:55 pm »
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how about nationalizing child porn and allowing pedophiles to purchase it from the government at a nominal cost.  perhaps levy a sin tax on it.  harm reduction.

How is the child porn being sold by the government going to be produced?

reproduce that which has already been produced.
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« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2012, 10:17:56 pm »

And congratulations on sealing the deal, Tweed. Locked.
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