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« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2012, 10:55:27 am »
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It's like the GOP don't want to be electable.
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« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2012, 11:17:03 am »
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The dude looks like a slightly younger and less grey version of Newt:

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« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2012, 11:42:43 am »
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It's like the GOP don't want to be electable.

Yeah, a twice elected (re-elected with 62% of the vote) statewide official knows nothing about electability in this Republican leaning (at worst) state.
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« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2012, 12:12:31 pm »
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It's like the GOP don't want to be electable.

I'll admit every time we have a chance to make a smart electability decision and we don't, it kinda depresses me. Last night was an example of that and that he lost by 60-40 too.
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2012, 03:28:23 pm »
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Unlike the moderate heroes polluting this thread I for one am not at all sad to see Dick Lugar go.  At the same time though, Moreduck isn't really any better.

Actually, Indiana itself is epic fail.  So yeah, nothing to see here folks.
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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2012, 04:00:58 pm »
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Completely disgusting, in fact this is why I'm in a constant identity crisis politically. I can't line up with this mob idiocy, I can understand wanting a strong conservative, but this is nothing more than wanting a war against the president, which isn't going to help conservative causes or getting anything substantial done.
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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2012, 06:17:55 pm »
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Despite all political difference, Lugar's defeat is a great loss for American politics.
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« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2012, 06:45:45 pm »
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Let's not act like Dick Lugar was some enlightened bipartisan fighter for what was right. He was basically a right-wing Republican that backed his party the vast majority of the time on their radical legislation.
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« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2012, 08:13:16 pm »
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Congratulations, Tmth!

He supported Lugar...

Do we not say "Congratulations, Phil" ironically at times?

No, only when Santorum wins something.

For instance:

"Rick Santorum wins lottery"
"Congrats, Phil!"
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« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2012, 08:15:40 pm »
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Ideological reasons were a minor part of why Lugar lost. Age, residency and length of service were more like it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-dick-lugar-lost/2012/05/09/gIQAj9cfCU_blog.html
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« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2012, 08:25:10 pm »
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Ideological reasons were a minor part of why Lugar lost. Age, residency and length of service were more like it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-dick-lugar-lost/2012/05/09/gIQAj9cfCU_blog.html

Yeah, not surprised.
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« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2012, 09:31:19 pm »
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Ideological reasons were a minor part of why Lugar lost. Age, residency and length of service were more like it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-dick-lugar-lost/2012/05/09/gIQAj9cfCU_blog.html
Hmm...

Let me just say this - If Dick Lugar had the voting record of say, Jim Demint, and he hadn't been respectful and friendly with Obama, he would be spending today planning how to beat Joe Donnelly in the fall.
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« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2012, 09:49:49 pm »
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Does anyone know if Dan Coats endorsed in this race?
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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2012, 09:52:48 pm »
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Does anyone know if Dan Coats endorsed in this race?

"Let the voters decide"- same as Mike Pence.
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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2012, 09:53:33 pm »
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Does anyone know if Dan Coats endorsed in this race?

I believe he kept his face out of the pie.
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« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2012, 10:08:22 pm »
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Does anyone know if Dan Coats endorsed in this race?
No. But he has little influence in the party anyways, so it would have made little difference.
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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2012, 10:27:18 pm »
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Ideological reasons were a minor part of why Lugar lost. Age, residency and length of service were more like it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-dick-lugar-lost/2012/05/09/gIQAj9cfCU_blog.html

Stop it! That doesn't fit the narrative!
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« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2012, 12:21:23 am »
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Completely disgusting, in fact this is why I'm in a constant identity crisis politically. I can't line up with this mob idiocy, I can understand wanting a strong conservative, but this is nothing more than wanting a war against the president, which isn't going to help conservative causes or getting anything substantial done.


Since Lugar voted against the "conservative cause" about a quarter of the time, it most certainly furthers the "conservative cause" to replace him with a man much more apt to vote for the "conservative" position on any given issue.

Accomplishing something "substantial" requires changing business as usual in Washington. Lugar showed no interesting in changing business as usual,  while Mourdock has.
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« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2012, 12:22:55 am »
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Ideological reasons were a minor part of why Lugar lost. Age, residency and length of service were more like it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-dick-lugar-lost/2012/05/09/gIQAj9cfCU_blog.html
Hmm...

Let me just say this - If Dick Lugar had the voting record of say, Jim Demint, and he hadn't been respectful and friendly with Obama, he would be spending today planning how to beat Joe Donnelly in the fall.

The rest of the GOP Senate caucus ought to ponder this.
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« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2012, 12:24:49 am »
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Ideological reasons were a minor part of why Lugar lost. Age, residency and length of service were more like it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/why-dick-lugar-lost/2012/05/09/gIQAj9cfCU_blog.html
Hmm...

Let me just say this - If Dick Lugar had the voting record of say, Jim Demint, and he hadn't been respectful and friendly with Obama, he would be spending today planning how to beat Joe Donnelly in the fall.

The rest of the GOP Senate caucus ought to ponder this.

Oh yeah, it's certainly been an Obama lovefest in the Republican Senate caucus with their nonstop filibusters of everything.
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« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2012, 09:06:59 am »
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Does anyone know if Dan Coats endorsed in this race?

"Let the voters decide"- same as Mike Pence.

Great sentiment.
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« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2012, 11:17:41 am »
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DSCC and the IN DEM Party should portray Mourdock as the character from the A-Team. Howling Mad Mourdock.
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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2012, 11:18:33 am »
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DSCC and the IN DEM Party should portray Mourdock as the character from the A-Team. Howling Mad Mourdock.

A guy who wells up almost as often as Boehner as howling mad? Really?
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« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2012, 12:58:18 pm »
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Let's not act like Dick Lugar was some enlightened bipartisan fighter for what was right. He was basically a right-wing Republican that backed his party the vast majority of the time on their radical legislation.

But because of the 1% of the time  that he voted with Democrats, he's a RINO who had to be Teabagged.
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« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2012, 01:51:04 pm »
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Unlike the moderate heroes polluting this thread I for one am not at all sad to see Dick Lugar go.  At the same time though, Moreduck isn't really any better.

I know Lugar was nowhere close a moderate. I acknowledge he was pretty right-wing. Yet, I always admired the man, who could stay true to his political principles and still be able to work together with his ideological opponents, when there was an agreement, without hateful hackery and drama, that now is obviously required for all GOP candidates.

Frankly, Mecha, I prefer to have a Lugar Republican over some another useless Evan Bayh representing Indiana. Not to mention another teabagger.
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