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Obama endorses gay marriage.
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http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/05/will-obama-finally-endorse-gay-marriage-abc-news/52110/
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“It’s interesting, some of this is also generational,” the president continued. “You know when I go to college campuses, sometimes I talk to college Republicans who think that I have terrible policies on the economy, on foreign policy, but are very clear that when it comes to same sex equality or, you know, sexual orientation that they believe in equality. They are much more comfortable with it.
You know, Malia and Sasha, they have friends whose parents are same-sex couples. There have been times where Michelle and I have been sitting around the dinner table and we’re talking about their friends and their parents and Malia and Sasha, it wouldn’t dawn on them that somehow their friends’ parents would be treated differently. It doesn’t make sense to them and frankly, that’s the kind of thing that prompts a change in perspective.”
Of course, polls showed that large majorities of Americans thought Obama support gay marriage
anyway
, so I doubt the political impact's as major as some were expecting - either positive or negative.
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That's not really an endorsement. Just some waffling about how the younger generation has no problem with it.
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The NEW! fully "evolved" Barack Obama!
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Quote from: Joe Republic on May 09, 2012, 02:19:52 pm
That's not really an endorsement. Just some waffling about how the younger generation has no problem with it.
The full quote's in the link, but the most relevant part is "I think same-sex couples should be able to get married".
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To be honest, I find it both weak and opportunist. Supporters of gay marriage should be hurt, as I am, that Obama came "a day late and a dollar short", quite literally, in the effort to advance the cause, most recently after the defeat in North Carolina. Now, he is only no longer to the right of Dick Cheney. Is this the "audacity" and "change" we were promised?
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Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 02:27:45 pm
To be honest, I find it both weak and opportunist. Supporters of gay marriage should be hurt, as I am, that Obama came "a day late and a dollar short", quite literally, in the effort to advance the cause, most recently after the defeat in North Carolina. Now, he is only no longer to the right of Dick Cheney. Is this the "audacity" and "change" we were promised?
I'm fine with his decision. I understand how politically difficult it was for him and perhaps personally too. Better late than never is always fine by me. Romney however makes me feel a little sick given that he's trying to pretend he opposes it.
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Quote from: True Conservative on May 09, 2012, 02:32:43 pm
Disgusting, but it's to be expected.
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Quote from: afleitch on May 09, 2012, 02:31:28 pm
Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 02:27:45 pm
To be honest, I find it both weak and opportunist. Supporters of gay marriage should be hurt, as I am, that Obama came "a day late and a dollar short", quite literally, in the effort to advance the cause, most recently after the defeat in North Carolina. Now, he is only no longer to the right of Dick Cheney. Is this the "audacity" and "change" we were promised?
I'm fine with his decision. I understand how politically difficult it was for him and perhaps personally too. Better late than never is always fine by me. Romney however makes me feel a little sick given that he's trying to pretend he opposes it.
But isn't making risky and bold decisions what leadership is all about? He should have come out two days ago.
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Re: Obama endorses gay marriage.
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About damn time.
Frankly, given his image, I don't see how endorsing gay marriage would've had a damn on his ratings.
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Quote from: Intellectual Extremist on May 09, 2012, 02:38:02 pm
About damn time.
Frankly, given his image, I don't see how endorsing gay marriage would've had a damn on his ratings.
Exactly.
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Quote from: True Conservative on May 09, 2012, 02:34:26 pm
Quote from: True Conservative on May 09, 2012, 02:32:43 pm
Disgusting, but it's to be expected.
I was just going to get irritated by your rote spamming, but I just checked out your recent post history, and concluded you probably don't care one way or another.
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Masterful.
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Re: Obama endorses gay marriage.
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Quote from: afleitch on May 09, 2012, 02:31:28 pm
Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 02:27:45 pm
To be honest, I find it both weak and opportunist. Supporters of gay marriage should be hurt, as I am, that Obama came "a day late and a dollar short", quite literally, in the effort to advance the cause, most recently after the defeat in North Carolina. Now, he is only no longer to the right of Dick Cheney. Is this the "audacity" and "change" we were promised?
I'm fine with his decision. I understand how politically difficult it was for him and perhaps personally too. Better late than never is always fine by me. Romney however makes me feel a little sick given that he's trying to pretend he opposes it.
What makes you think that Obama was genuine in opposing it and Romney isn't?
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Re: Obama endorses gay marriage.
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Quote from: shua, gm on May 09, 2012, 03:42:25 pm
Quote from: afleitch on May 09, 2012, 02:31:28 pm
Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 02:27:45 pm
To be honest, I find it both weak and opportunist. Supporters of gay marriage should be hurt, as I am, that Obama came "a day late and a dollar short", quite literally, in the effort to advance the cause, most recently after the defeat in North Carolina. Now, he is only no longer to the right of Dick Cheney. Is this the "audacity" and "change" we were promised?
I'm fine with his decision. I understand how politically difficult it was for him and perhaps personally too. Better late than never is always fine by me. Romney however makes me feel a little sick given that he's trying to pretend he opposes it.
What makes you think that Obama was genuine in opposing it and Romney isn't?
I never said that. Obama has privately supported gay marriage for a long time. I have no idea what Romney thinks other than he tries to pretend he's went into reverse, alongside everything else he used to believe in.
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Re: Obama endorses gay marriage.
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Never change, FOX.
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Quote from: afleitch on May 09, 2012, 04:12:04 pm
Quote from: shua, gm on May 09, 2012, 03:42:25 pm
Quote from: afleitch on May 09, 2012, 02:31:28 pm
Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 02:27:45 pm
To be honest, I find it both weak and opportunist. Supporters of gay marriage should be hurt, as I am, that Obama came "a day late and a dollar short", quite literally, in the effort to advance the cause, most recently after the defeat in North Carolina. Now, he is only no longer to the right of Dick Cheney. Is this the "audacity" and "change" we were promised?
I'm fine with his decision. I understand how politically difficult it was for him and perhaps personally too. Better late than never is always fine by me. Romney however makes me feel a little sick given that he's trying to pretend he opposes it.
What makes you think that Obama was genuine in opposing it and Romney isn't?
I never said that. Obama has privately supported gay marriage for a long time. I have no idea what Romney thinks other than he tries to pretend he's went into reverse, alongside everything else he used to believe in.
Obama also supported gay marriage before he was against it before he was for it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/13/obama-once-supported-same_n_157656.html
Really, he's no better than Romney here.
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Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 04:26:20 pm
Really, he's no better than Romney here.
Except in the sense that Obama's of the opinion that all Americans deserve equal rights, and Romney believes the opposite.
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Re: Obama endorses gay marriage.
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Quote from: Mr. Moderate on May 09, 2012, 04:29:19 pm
Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 04:26:20 pm
Really, he's no better than Romney here.
Except in the sense that Obama's of the opinion that all Americans deserve equal rights, and Romney believes the opposite.
I'm talking about switching positions. That's obstinacy.
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Obama handled this well.
Today, the headline is "Obama endorses gay marriage," not NC.
If he'd come out two days earlier, it would have been "Amendment 1 wins by landslide despite Obama's announcement."
I'm much happier with the first one.
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Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 04:30:15 pm
I'm talking about switching positions. That's obstinacy.
There is not a single politician alive who has not switched positions on something at some point. Flexibility is no vice.
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Quote from: Keystone Phil on May 09, 2012, 02:21:10 pm
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that may have been my favorite obama moment. even better that he kept up his opposition for so long after it became known he had supported it before. i guess he devolved at some point?
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Quote from: afleitch on May 09, 2012, 04:12:04 pm
Quote from: shua, gm on May 09, 2012, 03:42:25 pm
Quote from: afleitch on May 09, 2012, 02:31:28 pm
Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 02:27:45 pm
To be honest, I find it both weak and opportunist. Supporters of gay marriage should be hurt, as I am, that Obama came "a day late and a dollar short", quite literally, in the effort to advance the cause, most recently after the defeat in North Carolina. Now, he is only no longer to the right of Dick Cheney. Is this the "audacity" and "change" we were promised?
I'm fine with his decision. I understand how politically difficult it was for him and perhaps personally too. Better late than never is always fine by me. Romney however makes me feel a little sick given that he's trying to pretend he opposes it.
What makes you think that Obama was genuine in opposing it and Romney isn't?
I never said that. Obama has privately supported gay marriage for a long time. I have no idea what Romney thinks other than he tries to pretend he's went into reverse, alongside everything else he used to believe in.
So when Romney pretends not to support it, it makes you sick, but when Obama pretended not to support it that wasn't so bad?
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Re: Obama endorses gay marriage.
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Quote from: shua, gm on May 09, 2012, 04:40:54 pm
Quote from: afleitch on May 09, 2012, 04:12:04 pm
Quote from: shua, gm on May 09, 2012, 03:42:25 pm
Quote from: afleitch on May 09, 2012, 02:31:28 pm
Quote from: Severe Simfan34 on May 09, 2012, 02:27:45 pm
To be honest, I find it both weak and opportunist. Supporters of gay marriage should be hurt, as I am, that Obama came "a day late and a dollar short", quite literally, in the effort to advance the cause, most recently after the defeat in North Carolina. Now, he is only no longer to the right of Dick Cheney. Is this the "audacity" and "change" we were promised?
I'm fine with his decision. I understand how politically difficult it was for him and perhaps personally too. Better late than never is always fine by me. Romney however makes me feel a little sick given that he's trying to pretend he opposes it.
What makes you think that Obama was genuine in opposing it and Romney isn't?
I never said that. Obama has privately supported gay marriage for a long time. I have no idea what Romney thinks other than he tries to pretend he's went into reverse, alongside everything else he used to believe in.
So when Romney pretends not to support it, it makes you sick, but when Obama pretended not to support it that wasn't so bad?
Let me draw you a diagram
America ------------------------------------------------> Gay Marriage
Obama -------------------------------------------------> Gay Marriage
Romney <------------------------------------------------ Gay Marriage
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you can't seriously believe that.
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Quote from: True Conservative on May 09, 2012, 02:34:26 pm
Quote from: True Conservative on May 09, 2012, 02:32:43 pm
Disgusting, but it's to be expected.
Care to actually elaborate?
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