Obama Backs Gay Marriage!

[Senator Sbane]

Looks like Obama alienated about half the hispanic votes in key swing states.  Oh, and I thought Romney was a flip flopper on issues, Obama supporters can be hypocrites at times.

Thanks for bringing this up. Yes, the Republicans could have exploited this issue to get more support with working class Hispanics but then you guys f'ed up with the AZ immigration law and similar laws that have been passed by Republicans across the country. Gays marrying will be less of an issue for Hispanic than one of the major parties race baiting using them to win votes. Haha, it will be fun watching you guys get punished for your bigotry.

Except that same-sex marriage is approximately as popular with Hispanic voters as it is with white voters.

Yes, after you factor in Southern whites that is probably true. The difference being those whites wouldn't vote Democrat in any case, whereas some Latino voters who oppose gay marriage probably do. There is a chance Latino voters could be turned off by this, but race baiting by the Republicans will take precedence over this issue for sure. And African Americans are so loyal to the Democrats and especially to Obama that I don't see them flipping over this either. Latinos are swing voters without strong loyalties but the idiot Republicans changed that. I hope they get punished. I really do. Bigotry must not be tolerated.

[Governor NVGonzalez]

Looks like Obama alienated about half the hispanic votes in key swing states.  Oh, and I thought Romney was a flip flopper on issues, Obama supporters can be hypocrites at times.

Thanks for bringing this up. Yes, the Republicans could have exploited this issue to get more support with working class Hispanics but then you guys f'ed up with the AZ immigration law and similar laws that have been passed by Republicans across the country. Gays marrying will be less of an issue for Hispanic than one of the major parties race baiting using them to win votes. Haha, it will be fun watching you guys get punished for your bigotry.

Except that same-sex marriage is approximately as popular with Hispanic voters as it is with white voters.

Yes, after you factor in Southern whites that is probably true. The difference being those whites wouldn't vote Democrat in any case, whereas some Latino voters who oppose gay marriage probably do. There is a chance Latino voters could be turned off by this, but race baiting by the Republicans will take precedence over this issue for sure. And African Americans are so loyal to the Democrats and especially to Obama that I don't see them flipping over this either. Latinos are swing voters without strong loyalties but the idiot Republicans changed that. I hope they get punished. I really do. Bigotry must not be tolerated.

Winner.

[GM Griffin]

Looks like Obama alienated about half the hispanic votes in key swing states.  Oh, and I thought Romney was a flip flopper on issues, Obama supporters can be hypocrites at times.

Thanks for bringing this up. Yes, the Republicans could have exploited this issue to get more support with working class Hispanics but then you guys f'ed up with the AZ immigration law and similar laws that have been passed by Republicans across the country. Gays marrying will be less of an issue for Hispanic than one of the major parties race baiting using them to win votes. Haha, it will be fun watching you guys get punished for your bigotry.

Except that same-sex marriage is approximately as popular with Hispanic voters as it is with white voters.

Yes, after you factor in Southern whites that is probably true. The difference being those whites wouldn't vote Democrat in any case, whereas some Latino voters who oppose gay marriage probably do. There is a chance Latino voters could be turned off by this, but race baiting by the Republicans will take precedence over this issue for sure. And African Americans are so loyal to the Democrats and especially to Obama that I don't see them flipping over this either. Latinos are swing voters without strong loyalties but the idiot Republicans changed that. I hope they get punished. I really do. Bigotry must not be tolerated.

"A fall poll put Hispanic Catholic support of same-sex marriage at 42 approve, 42 disapprove. Hispanics as a whole haven’t been polled on the question recently, but a 2009 Pew poll had the Latino community fairly evenly divided on the question of same-sex marriage, with 45 percent in favor and 49 percent opposed. And an April survey showed that 59 percent of Latinos said homosexuality should be accepted by society, but it did not ask about gay marriage specifically."

Half of all Americans backed gay marriage in the 2012 Gallup’s 2012 gay marriage poll, released Tuesday. Democrats and independents drove the increase, with 65 percent of Democrats backing the practice and 57 percent of independents throwing their support behind it.

I also heard on the Ed Show tonight that 55% of whites support same-sex marriage, while 45% of African-Americans support it, but I'm not sure how accurate those numbers actually are.

[Senator Sbane]

Here's the point. Of the whites who oppose gay marriage, the large majority are already voting Republican. That is not necessarily true of Latinos and certainly not true with Blacks. If Latinos are voting 2:1 or 3:1 for Obama while being split on gay marriage, obviously there is a lot of pro-Obama and anti-gay marriage overlap. The question is whether this will affect the vote of many of them, but imho it won't.

[GM Griffin]

Here's the point. Of the whites who oppose gay marriage, the large majority are already voting Republican. That is not necessarily true of Latinos and certainly not true with Blacks. If Latinos are voting 2:1 or 3:1 for Obama while being split on gay marriage, obviously there is a lot of pro-Obama and anti-gay marriage overlap. The question is whether this will affect the vote of many of them, but imho it won't.

It's very unlikely there will be any shifts in the African-American community. Turnout might be down some, but I highly doubt the % of the AA vote for Obama is going to drop more than 1-2 points. Obama - pre-evolution - probably was realistically sitting at 75% with Latinos. Even if it drops to 65%, he'll be alright. He's got plenty of leeway and he knows it.

[Senator Sbane]

I highly doubt it will drop that much with Latinos. I don't think it will be more than a couple points, and that too due to decreased turnout rather than them voting for Romney. And with Blacks I suspect no change at all.

[All life is a blur of Republicans and meat.]

So he finally got tired of being to the right of Andrew Cuomo?

[ModerateCoward]

So he finally got tired of being to the right of Andrew Cuomo?

I don't think Obama wants to cut taxes as much as Cuomo does.

[Joe Republic]

[Old Europe]

Sometimes you gotta roll the hard six.

[Senator Snowstalker]

This won't hurt him; most swing voters already think he supports same-sex marriage.

[BaldEagle1991]

Looks like Obama alienated about half the hispanic votes in key swing states.  Oh, and I thought Romney was a flip flopper on issues, Obama supporters can be hypocrites at times.

Thanks for bringing this up. Yes, the Republicans could have exploited this issue to get more support with working class Hispanics but then you guys f'ed up with the AZ immigration law and similar laws that have been passed by Republicans across the country. Gays marrying will be less of an issue for Hispanic than one of the major parties race baiting using them to win votes. Haha, it will be fun watching you guys get punished for your bigotry.

Except that same-sex marriage is approximately as popular with Hispanic voters as it is with white voters.

Yes, after you factor in Southern whites that is probably true. The difference being those whites wouldn't vote Democrat in any case, whereas some Latino voters who oppose gay marriage probably do. There is a chance Latino voters could be turned off by this, but race baiting by the Republicans will take precedence over this issue for sure. And African Americans are so loyal to the Democrats and especially to Obama that I don't see them flipping over this either. Latinos are swing voters without strong loyalties but the idiot Republicans changed that. I hope they get punished. I really do. Bigotry must not be tolerated.

"A fall poll put Hispanic Catholic support of same-sex marriage at 42 approve, 42 disapprove. Hispanics as a whole haven’t been polled on the question recently, but a 2009 Pew poll had the Latino community fairly evenly divided on the question of same-sex marriage, with 45 percent in favor and 49 percent opposed. And an April survey showed that 59 percent of Latinos said homosexuality should be accepted by society, but it did not ask about gay marriage specifically."

Evenly divided, but I assume a lot of them are young, as younger people regardless of religion, ethnicity, etc. are going to be pro-gay marriage. Hispanics are younger than average of the US population so this is why you are seeing an evenly divide.

[Secretary Polnut]

After the election, Obama divorces Michelle and moves in with "body man" Reggie Love.

I see... that's the only reason why he'd support SSM?

[vern1988]

He shot himself in the foot. Every person who was an Obama support at my work today said they aren't going to vote for him and just stay home.

[Gravis Marketing]

He shot himself in the foot. Every person who was an Obama support at my work today said they aren't going to vote for him and just stay home.

Mm-hmm. Where do you work?

[Secretary Polnut]

After the election, Obama divorces Michelle and moves in with "body man" Reggie Love.

I see... that's the only reason why he'd support SSM?

No.  He also needs the money and other support he'll get now from Hollywood and the other holders of the megaphones of U.S. culture.

Oh ... I'm sorry, I clearly had the wrong idea about you. Thanks for the clarification!

[© Tweed the Younger]

He shot himself in the foot. Every person who was an Obama support at my work today said they aren't going to vote for him and just stay home.

I love this post

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

Look whose talkin'!

It's probably ill-advised to make grammatical errors in 30-point bold red.

[Is JCL in mushy sappy love]

Moral issues trump racial identity. This will bite Obama in the hindquarters amongst AA's and Latinos for sure. He just lost Indiana, West Virginia, made his life harder in Virginia, North Carolina, and possibly Ohio, Colorado, Missouri, and Florida.

[asexual trans victimologist]

Moral issues trump racial identity.

They....no. They really don't.

This will bite Obama in the hindquarters amongst AA's and Latinos for sure.

How many times must we remind you that Hispanics support gay marriage at about the same rate as whites? Are you really laboring under the delusion that Obama will sink below ~92% with blacks on account of this?!

He just lost Indiana, West Virginia,

He didn't 'just' lose West Virginia, and Indiana was doubtful anyway.

made his life harder in Virginia, North Carolina, and possibly Ohio, Colorado, Missouri, and Florida.

Sure.

[ajb]

Moral issues trump racial identity. This will bite Obama in the hindquarters amongst AA's and Latinos for sure. He just lost Indiana, West Virginia, made his life harder in Virginia, North Carolina, and possibly Ohio, Colorado, Missouri, and Florida.

If millions of pro-life evangelical African-Americans have been able to vote for Obama in spite of his being pro-choice, what makes you think same-sex marriage will be any different?

[Progressive Realist]

Moral issues trump racial identity. This will bite Obama in the hindquarters amongst AA's and Latinos for sure. He just lost Indiana, West Virginia, made his life harder in Virginia, North Carolina, and possibly Ohio, Colorado, Missouri, and Florida.

LOL. LOL. LOLOLOLOL.

The fact remains, social class (which, in America, includes race, religion,  income, gender, sexual orientation, and education to a lesser extent) is the strongest predictor of partisan preference. This has been consistent throughout American history.

 

[Landslide Lyndon]

Moral issues trump racial identity.

And you know all about that as a member of which minority?

[Progressive Realist]

Moral issues trump racial identity.

And you know all about that as a member of which minority?

The Constitution Party minority, clearly.

[Lief]

Moral issues trump racial identity.

And you know all about that as a member of which minority?

"WHITE'S ARE A RACIAL MINORITY IN THIS COUNTRY THESE DAYS, WHY ISN'T THERE A WHITE HISTORY MONTH, WHY CAN'T I BE PROUD OF MY HERITAGE BY FLYING THIS FLAG FLOWN BY SLAVERY DEFENDERS??!?" - JCL probably.