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« on: May 09, 2012, 06:03:55 pm »
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The Fair Compliance Amendment

Article I, Section VI of The Atlasian Constitution is amended to read:
The Senate shall make no law that applies to the citizens of Atlasia that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Regional officers; and, the Senate shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Regional officers that does not apply equally to the citizens of Atlasia.

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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 06:32:10 pm »
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I sponsored this legislation because I believe it is of utmost importance to ensure that legislators do not receive special treatments or privileges or exemptions from laws, economic regulations, et cetera.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 07:22:34 pm »
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I agree wholeheartedly with this...was there any particular issue Scott that you had in mind when proposing this?
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 07:32:39 pm »
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I agree wholeheartedly with this...was there any particular issue Scott that you had in mind when proposing this?

The Congressional insider trading scandal and the draft debate both helped inspire this.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 09:38:34 pm »
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I agree wholeheartedly with this...was there any particular issue Scott that you had in mind when proposing this?

The Congressional insider trading scandal and the draft debate both helped inspire this.

Do we in Atlasia insider trade? Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 09:42:40 pm »
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I agree wholeheartedly with this...was there any particular issue Scott that you had in mind when proposing this?

The Congressional insider trading scandal and the draft debate both helped inspire this.

Do we in Atlasia insider trade? Tongue

Quite possibly. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 09:14:02 pm »
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I have concerns relating to a potential draft, but a draft is highly improbable, so this legislation has my full support.
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 10:39:07 pm »
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I agree wholeheartedly with this...was there any particular issue Scott that you had in mind when proposing this?

The Congressional insider trading scandal and the draft debate both helped inspire this.

Do we in Atlasia insider trade? Tongue

I do possess knowledge of potentially unethical scheming in the lead up to the passage or attempted passage of certain FTAs in 2009 back when they were done individual. Whether or not that involved insider trading I may or may not know. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2012, 08:57:18 am »
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Crap, well now how the hell am I supposed to make more money?

Now, for a stupid question, that does end up being a real one. It's a bit fetched, but does this interfer with office holding? Because if I remember correctly, someone recently held duel offices on the Cabinet level, where as it isn't allowed regionally. I ask this because the Amendment itself is pretty vague, and I think it would probably be best to fix it, or close loop holes before it gets any further.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2012, 01:40:42 pm »
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Crap, well now how the hell am I supposed to make more money?

Now, for a stupid question, that does end up being a real one. It's a bit fetched, but does this interfer with office holding? Because if I remember correctly, someone recently held duel offices on the Cabinet level, where as it isn't allowed regionally. I ask this because the Amendment itself is pretty vague, and I think it would probably be best to fix it, or close loop holes before it gets any further.

I wasn't aware of this.  Isn't dual office-holding already prohibited by the Constitution?
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2012, 02:10:13 pm »
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Here's an attempt at closing loopholes:

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The Fair Compliance Amendment

Article I, Section VI of The Atlasian Constitution is amended to read:
The Senate shall make no law not directly related to the office of the Senate and/or Regional office that applies to the citizens of Atlasia that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Regional officers; and, the Senate shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Regional officers that does not apply equally to the citizens of Atlasia.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2012, 02:16:17 pm »
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Here's an attempt at closing loopholes:

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The Fair Compliance Amendment

Article I, Section VI of The Atlasian Constitution is amended to read:
The Senate shall make no law not directly related to the office of the Senate and/or Regional office that applies to the citizens of Atlasia that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Regional officers; and, the Senate shall make no law that applies to the Senators and/or Regional officers that does not apply equally to the citizens of Atlasia.

Is this an amendment?  If so, it is friendly.
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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2012, 06:59:31 pm »
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Yes, I'll call it an amendment Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2012, 08:41:25 pm »
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Senators have 24 hours to object.


Good catch, Andy! Smiley

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2012, 10:43:28 am »
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Can't this be currently construed as saying that every citizen is entitled to the same compensation as a Senator?
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2012, 10:51:42 am »
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Can't this be currently construed as saying that every citizen is entitled to the same compensation as a Senator?

Not with TJ's amendment, I wouldn't think so.
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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2012, 11:00:21 am »
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Can't this be currently construed as saying that every citizen is entitled to the same compensation as a Senator?

Not with TJ's amendment, I wouldn't think so.

I'd think not, the part that would seem to do so is the part TJ didn't amend:

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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2012, 11:07:42 am »
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Then I shall amend:

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The Fair Compliance Amendment

Article I, Section VI of The Atlasian Constitution is amended to read:
The Senate shall make no law not directly related to the office of the Senate and/or Regional office that applies to the citizens of Atlasia that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Regional officers; and, the Senate shall make no law not directly related to the office of the Senate and/or Regional office that applies to the Senators and/or Regional officers that does not apply equally to the citizens of Atlasia.

It is friendly.

This is the most confusing amendment I've ever read, now. Tongue
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2012, 06:18:35 pm »
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Unless I missed something, the previous amendment has passed.


Senators have 24 hours to object to the new amendment.
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2012, 06:59:45 pm »
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Scott's amendment has passed.


Anything else here or is it ready to ship out?
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2012, 07:59:32 pm »
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My body is ready.

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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2012, 05:14:51 pm »
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Senators, this bill is now at final vote. Please vote, Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2012, 05:16:31 pm »
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The Fair Compliance Amendment

Article I, Section VI of The Atlasian Constitution is amended to read:
The Senate shall make no law not directly related to the office of the Senate and/or Regional office that applies to the citizens of Atlasia that does not apply equally to the Senators and/or Regional officers; and, the Senate shall make no law not directly related to the office of the Senate and/or Regional office that applies to the Senators and/or Regional officers that does not apply equally to the citizens of Atlasia.
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« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2012, 05:23:18 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2012, 05:50:34 pm »
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