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« on: May 11, 2012, 01:04:58 pm »
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Hubert Humphrey in 1968 (63% compared to 33% for Nixon) did better in Massachusetts than home-stater John F. Kennedy in 1960 (60% compared to 40% for Nixon). Why?
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 01:07:03 pm »
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Hubert Humphrey in 1968 (63% compared to 33% for Nixon) did better in Massachusetts than home-stater John F. Kennedy in 1960 (60% compared to 40% for Nixon). Why?

Lingering sympathy vote due to the JFK assassination.  Never really went away, that's what changed MA from a D-leaning swing state to safe Democratic.
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 01:12:32 pm »
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Hubert Humphrey in 1968 (63% compared to 33% for Nixon) did better in Massachusetts than home-stater John F. Kennedy in 1960 (60% compared to 40% for Nixon). Why?

Lingering sympathy vote due to the JFK assassination.  Never really went away, that's what changed MA from a D-leaning swing state to safe Democratic.

Plus, Nixon ran a more moderate campaign in 1960 vs 1968, and I'm guessing that Catholics increased as a percentage of the population in those eight years.

Also, a lot of people in MA (including moderate/liberal WASP Republicans) were dovish on Vietnam.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 01:15:23 pm »
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Plus, Nixon ran a more moderate campaign in 1960 vs 1968, and I'm guessing that Catholics increased as a percentage of the population in those eight years.

Uh, no.  WASPs probably decreased though.

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Also, a lot of people in MA (including moderate/liberal WASP Republicans) were dovish on Vietnam.

Nixon was perceived as more dovish on Vietnam than Humphrey (if only because of the LBJ connection).  I believe it's the only time my New-Dealer and quite pacifist grandfather voted Republican.
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2012, 01:22:53 pm »
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Plus, Nixon ran a more moderate campaign in 1960 vs 1968, and I'm guessing that Catholics increased as a percentage of the population in those eight years.

Uh, no.  WASPs probably decreased though.

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Also, a lot of people in MA (including moderate/liberal WASP Republicans) were dovish on Vietnam.

Nixon was perceived as more dovish on Vietnam than Humphrey (if only because of the LBJ connection).  I believe it's the only time my New-Dealer and quite pacifist grandfather voted Republican.

Ah, ok.

Perhaps it also helped the Democrats in MA in 68 that Bobby Kennedy was murdered that year, and Ted was a Senator (in addition to the JFK sympathy vote)?
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2012, 01:24:17 pm »
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Perhaps it also helped the Democrats in MA in 68 that Bobby Kennedy was murdered that year,

Yes, that definitely helped.

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and Ted was a Senator (in addition to the JFK sympathy vote)?

Marginal effect, but Ted's endorsement certainly shored up Humphrey somewhat with Catholics and liberals.
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2012, 10:16:47 pm »
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Hard to say for sure; Massachusetts seems to have been really moving towards the Ds at this time (see 1964 or 1972, also). As Al and others have pointed out, 1968 was very much a class-based election in a way that US politics basically hasn't been since, which may have played somewhat of a factor.

Lodge might have helped Nixon a bit in 1960, plus Eisenhower was pretty popular in MA as evidenced by the 1956 result in particular.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2012, 07:05:08 pm »
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There was never a doubt that the Kennedys would endorse the democratic nominee in 1968. Even before the California primary, Bobby was speaking kindly for Hubert Humphrey.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2012, 06:54:38 am »
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I don't know if it had an impact, but Cabot Lodge was Nixon's running mate in 1960.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2012, 08:45:10 am »
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I don't know if it had an impact, but Cabot Lodge was Nixon's running mate in 1960.

According the results (Kennedy won 60% in 1960) it seems that it helped the Republicans keep the five WASPs who were still in Massachusetts Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2012, 01:30:56 pm »
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I don't know if it had an impact, but Cabot Lodge was Nixon's running mate in 1960.

Normally I'd say just the same, but having a Bay Stater as running mate would probably be outweighed by the other party having a Bay Stater as presidential nominee. Further, I think Henry Cabot Lodge was actually unseated by JFK in 1952 (although the margin wasn't large, admittedly).
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2012, 11:18:13 pm »
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I don't know if it had an impact, but Cabot Lodge was Nixon's running mate in 1960.

Normally I'd say just the same, but having a Bay Stater as running mate would probably be outweighed by the other party having a Bay Stater as presidential nominee. Further, I think Henry Cabot Lodge was actually unseated by JFK in 1952 (although the margin wasn't large, admittedly).

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