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Tender Branson
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« on: May 11, 2012, 10:56:25 PM »

Wisconsin: Obama 49%, Romney 45%

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/wisconsin/election_2012_wisconsin_president
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« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2012, 11:09:24 PM »

U can't trust this pollster anymore
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« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2012, 11:17:03 PM »

Obama by 4 but Thompson leading by 10? Lol no.
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2012, 11:23:19 PM »

Obama by 4 but Thompson leading by 10? Lol no.

That doesn't really sound all that strange. I mean, sure you probably need to adjust a few points toward the Dems on both, but a four-time governor of the state running against a pretty far-left opponent ought to poll just a little better than Mitt Romney.
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2012, 11:26:57 PM »

Obama by 4 but Thompson leading by 10? Lol no.

1984 WI President: Reagan by 9
1986 WI Governor: Thompson by 7
1988 WI President: Dukakis by 4
1990 WI Governor: Thompson by 16
1992 WI President: Clinton by 4
1994 WI Governor: Thompson by 36
1996 WI President: Clinton by 10
1998 WI Governor: Thompson by 21
2000 WI President: Gore by <1
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2012, 08:06:11 AM »

Is this a general election likely voter screen or a Walker recall likely voter screen?
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2012, 08:31:07 AM »

Is this a general election likely voter screen or a Walker recall likely voter screen?

Both were done on May 9, both surveys have 500 likely voters.

So I guess it's a Walker recall likely voter screen and not a Nov. LV screen.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2012, 08:35:12 AM »

Obama's ceiling in the latest WI polls seems to be 49-50%, which is good for him. The margin is once again, irrelevent.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2012, 09:42:55 AM »

Considering all the Walker business, Wisconsin could be very close in 2012, since both Democrats and Republicans are very, very energized to turn out. And that Republicans seem to be winning (the various recalls, at least).
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2012, 09:55:36 AM »

1) Walker is very likely to win
2) the GOP US Senate candidate (probably Thompson) is likely to win
3) Obama v Romney is hard to call, could break either way.   
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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2012, 09:59:29 AM »

1) Walker is very likely to win
2) the GOP US Senate candidate (probably Thompson) is likely to win
3) Obama v Romney is hard to call, could break either way.   

I don't know. There haven't been any polls out since the video; I think Walker supporters may vote for him anyway, but it will energize the opposition. Thompson winning is likely, sure, but it's doubtful that it will be by more than a few percentage points. Same goes for Obama.
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2012, 10:02:48 AM »

Wisconsin will be competitive in 2012 if Walker wins the recall.
However, Wisconsin only matters if Romney can also win Iowa. He wouldn't need Nevada, Colorado, or Virginia then.
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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2012, 10:27:21 AM »

1) Walker is very likely to win
2) the GOP US Senate candidate (probably Thompson) is likely to win
3) Obama v Romney is hard to call, could break either way.   

I don't know. There haven't been any polls out since the video; I think Walker supporters may vote for him anyway, but it will energize the opposition. Thompson winning is likely, sure, but it's doubtful that it will be by more than a few percentage points. Same goes for Obama.

That video didn't say anything.  "Divide and Conquer" from Scot Walker means: "be mild and practical"   
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2012, 11:11:07 AM »

1) Walker is very likely to win
2) the GOP US Senate candidate (probably Thompson) is likely to win
3) Obama v Romney is hard to call, could break either way.   

I don't know. There haven't been any polls out since the video; I think Walker supporters may vote for him anyway, but it will energize the opposition. Thompson winning is likely, sure, but it's doubtful that it will be by more than a few percentage points. Same goes for Obama.

That video didn't say anything.  "Divide and Conquer" from Scot Walker means: "be mild and practical"   

http://news.yahoo.com/video-walker-explains-divide-conquer-strategy-141616914.html

No, it means go after one group and destroy its capacity for resistance to a right-wing agenda,  and then after another so that Wisconsin can become a cheap-labor state with a crippled public sector on behalf of out-of-state interests who bought Scott Walker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salami_tactics   
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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2012, 11:31:28 AM »

1) Walker is very likely to win
2) the GOP US Senate candidate (probably Thompson) is likely to win
3) Obama v Romney is hard to call, could break either way.   

I don't know. There haven't been any polls out since the video; I think Walker supporters may vote for him anyway, but it will energize the opposition. Thompson winning is likely, sure, but it's doubtful that it will be by more than a few percentage points. Same goes for Obama.

That video didn't say anything.  "Divide and Conquer" from Scot Walker means: "be mild and practical"   

http://news.yahoo.com/video-walker-explains-divide-conquer-strategy-141616914.html

No, it means go after one group and destroy its capacity for resistance to a right-wing agenda,  and then after another so that Wisconsin can become a cheap-labor state with a crippled public sector on behalf of out-of-state interests who bought Scott Walker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salami_tactics   

1) Walker has strengthened the public sector
2) I don't know what will be proposed 5 years from now, so I can't argue your made up hypothetical.  I can debate reality if you wish.   
3) Diane Hendricks is from Wisconsin, so change that to "In-state-interests" on Walker's side and  "out-of-state interests" on the democrats side.
4) He hasn't ever pushed anything on the private sector, so I don't see it anytime soon.  Maybe something like re-certifying or opt-out-privileges for workers he would support someday.       
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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2012, 12:04:23 PM »

1) Walker is very likely to win
2) the GOP US Senate candidate (probably Thompson) is likely to win
3) Obama v Romney is hard to call, could break either way.   

I don't know. There haven't been any polls out since the video; I think Walker supporters may vote for him anyway, but it will energize the opposition. Thompson winning is likely, sure, but it's doubtful that it will be by more than a few percentage points. Same goes for Obama.

That video didn't say anything.  "Divide and Conquer" from Scot Walker means: "be mild and practical"   

http://news.yahoo.com/video-walker-explains-divide-conquer-strategy-141616914.html

No, it means go after one group and destroy its capacity for resistance to a right-wing agenda,  and then after another so that Wisconsin can become a cheap-labor state with a crippled public sector on behalf of out-of-state interests who bought Scott Walker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salami_tactics   

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Organized labor throughout America knows what is at stake. Nobody said that the Hard Right is withou7t a constituency in Wisconsin.

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The Hard Right has no use for labor unions. Just low wages and controlled markets.
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