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What punishment should a 13 year old get if he murder a cop in school?
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What punishment should a 13 year old get if he murder a cop in school?
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somewhere between options 3 and 4, I suppose.
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Is he killing the cop in self defense...an accident? You said "kill" not "murder", but your options make it seem like you meant "murder".... so it's a little confusing.
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Quote from: dead0man on May 13, 2012, 03:02:56 pm
Is he killing the cop in self defense...an accident? You said "kill" not "murder", but your options make it seem like you meant "murder".... so it's a little confusing.
This 13 year is murdering the cop in self defense for what a cop did to him on the weekend. Some town cop was out on the streets and suddenly talks over with this 13 year with why the kid was walking on the streets at 11:30 at night in his small city. Then the 13 year old talks trash and the cop suddenly goes Rodney King on the kid. This marks the revenge for the 13 year old. On that Monday, two days later after the cop brutality treatment of the 13 year old, the 13 year old swiftly stabs a cop right in the stomach four minutes before school started. The cop dies afterwards and the 13 year old is arrested for assaulted murder of a police officer.
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Re: What punishment should a 13 year old get if he murder a cop in school?
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This clearly lacks poll options.
Realistically, I'd say 10-20 years with parole would make sense.
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Quote from: Enfin ! on May 13, 2012, 04:34:24 pm
This clearly lacks poll options.
I think the weakness of the poll is due to this. I could have added more opinion while I was creating the poll.
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Lunchtime detention while he writes out 200 times "I will not stab police officers..."
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Re: What punishment should a 13 year old get if he murder a cop in school?
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Answered the poll without reading the thread.
If it had been murder, then the death penalty (and not because the victim was a cop).
However, what was described in the thread doesn't meet any reasonable standard for murder for adults, let alone juveniles. It's also unclear whether the cop he stabbed was the same who went Rodney Duke on him. (Since the kid was able to go to school two days later, it appears what he suffered doesn't rank high enough to be called a King.) At most 20 years, at minimum juvenile detention until he graduates high school or is 21, whichever comes first.
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I believe that would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
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We are talking about a child here. No child should be sentenced to 10-20 years in prison. 5 years in a juvenile detention center would be enough.
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This also happens right before his birthday that is in 3 weeks fyi. And also the cop is the same guy who abuse the teen.
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Quote from: The Demon Barber of Bain Street on May 13, 2012, 05:21:28 pm
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I believe that would be considered cruel and unusual punishment.
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Re: What punishment should a 13 year old get if he kills a cop in school?
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Quote from: Vermin Supreme on May 13, 2012, 04:29:46 pm
Quote from: dead0man on May 13, 2012, 03:02:56 pm
Is he killing the cop in self defense...an accident? You said "kill" not "murder", but your options make it seem like you meant "murder".... so it's a little confusing.
This 13 year is murdering the cop in self defense for what a cop did to him on the weekend. Some town cop was out on the streets and suddenly talks over with this 13 year with why the kid was walking on the streets at 11:30 at night in his small city. Then the 13 year old talks trash and the cop suddenly goes Rodney King on the kid. This marks the revenge for the 13 year old. On that Monday, two days later after the cop brutality treatment of the 13 year old, the 13 year old swiftly stabs a cop right in the stomach four minutes before school started. The cop dies afterwards and the 13 year old is arrested for assaulted murder of a police officer.
Oh, well now that you spelled out the circumstances of the crime I would have voted rehabilitation. Would have been nice if you had this in your opening post.
When I first read the poll I just assumed it was a random, unprovoked attack.
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Where did you come up with this scenario?
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Re: What punishment should a 13 year old get if he murder a cop in school?
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An extra homework sheet.
Seriously: probably rehabiliation.
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You can't "murder" somebody in self defense and you can't play the self defense card two days after the fact (with a few exceptions and this ain't one of 'em). Of the options listed, I vote 50 years (but not a "hard" 50...the kind of 50 that gets you out in 7.5 years of "good behavior"...plus, this kid is a cop killer....at 13....with a knife kill...he is going to be god in juvy)
(and what kind of moron talks sh**t to a cop especially when you two are the only people around late at night, but this isn't my main issue)
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Quote from: Vermin Supreme on May 13, 2012, 04:29:46 pm
Quote from: dead0man on May 13, 2012, 03:02:56 pm
Is he killing the cop in self defense...an accident? You said "kill" not "murder", but your options make it seem like you meant "murder".... so it's a little confusing.
This 13 year is murdering the cop in self defense for what a cop did to him on the weekend. Some town cop was out on the streets and suddenly talks over with this 13 year with why the kid was walking on the streets at 11:30 at night in his small city. Then the 13 year old talks trash and the cop suddenly goes Rodney King on the kid. This marks the revenge for the 13 year old. On that Monday, two days later after the cop brutality treatment of the 13 year old, the 13 year old swiftly stabs a cop right in the stomach four minutes before school started. The cop dies afterwards and the 13 year old is arrested for assaulted murder of a police officer.
He would get about 5 to 10 years in Austria.
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Is he killing the cop in self defense...an accident? You said "kill" not "murder", but your options make it seem like you meant "murder".... so it's a little confusing.
This 13 year is murdering the cop in self defense for what a cop did to him on the weekend. Some town cop was out on the streets and suddenly talks over with this 13 year with why the kid was walking on the streets at 11:30 at night in his small city. Then the 13 year old talks trash and the cop suddenly goes Rodney King on the kid. This marks the revenge for the 13 year old. On that Monday, two days later after the cop brutality treatment of the 13 year old, the 13 year old swiftly stabs a cop right in the stomach four minutes before school started. The cop dies afterwards and the 13 year old is arrested for assaulted murder of a police officer.
He would get about 5 to 10 years in Austria.
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Re: What punishment should a 13 year old get if he kills a cop in school?
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Quote from: Franzl on May 14, 2012, 03:33:46 am
Quote from: Tender Branson on May 14, 2012, 12:13:23 am
Quote from: Vermin Supreme on May 13, 2012, 04:29:46 pm
Quote from: dead0man on May 13, 2012, 03:02:56 pm
Is he killing the cop in self defense...an accident? You said "kill" not "murder", but your options make it seem like you meant "murder".... so it's a little confusing.
This 13 year is murdering the cop in self defense for what a cop did to him on the weekend. Some town cop was out on the streets and suddenly talks over with this 13 year with why the kid was walking on the streets at 11:30 at night in his small city. Then the 13 year old talks trash and the cop suddenly goes Rodney King on the kid. This marks the revenge for the 13 year old. On that Monday, two days later after the cop brutality treatment of the 13 year old, the 13 year old swiftly stabs a cop right in the stomach four minutes before school started. The cop dies afterwards and the 13 year old is arrested for assaulted murder of a police officer.
He would get about 5 to 10 years in Austria.
He wouldn't get
any
criminal punishment in Germany.
Strafmündigkeit
begins at age 14.
Ah, yeah. He's only 13, so no punishment for him in Austria too.
Just checked it, 14 years for
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So, huh, you can do anything you want if you're 13 and under? I hope you at least miss a week of school if you murder a dozen of your classmates.
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