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Question: We all have to do this....but what would you rather do?
Pay for someone else to be excluded from society.   -15 (35.7%)
Pay for someone else and perhaps have a small chance of someone for someone to pay me back.   -27 (64.3%)
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Total Voters: 42

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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2012, 03:34:15 am »
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Quote from: Franzl on July 01, 2012, 10:55:06 am
You can't figure out why having a well educatedvand healthy society is beneficial in general? Really?

It would be. However this almost never turns out to be the case. Also I would rather keep more of my own money and spend it on what I want, instead of what the state wants.

You as a Sovereign Individual (tm) can't pay for an ordered and peaceful society even if you want to.

Witty barbs aside, what I mean is I would rather save some additional money for myself, or spend it on a holiday or a car, than pay for the education, healthcare and benefits of slum-dwelling drug addicts.

I wonder what it's like experiencing life as an actively awful person.

But I'm not. I give money to charities I want to give to. I don't want to spend money on the welfare of people in Brixton or Hackney, only for them to go out and riot. I love the way anyone who questions the effectiveness, or the popularity, of state redistribution of wealth, is evil.
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2012, 03:38:31 am »
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That pretty much is evil, yeah.
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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2012, 10:58:47 am »
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Quote from: Franzl on July 02, 2012, 03:38:31 am
That pretty much is evil, yeah.

How so?
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« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2012, 12:10:02 pm »
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I... I... I really hope you're about fourteen.
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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2012, 12:23:57 pm »
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I... I... I really hope you're about fourteen.

Sorry to disappoint you, but no. Why?
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« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2012, 02:10:10 pm »
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I love the way anyone who questions the effectiveness, or the popularity, of state redistribution of wealth, is evil.

The capitalist state has distributed wealth as it is, BritishDixie, and it is to the State that you owe every chit of privilege you are vouchsafed.  Others merely propose an adjustment.
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« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2012, 03:14:55 pm »
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I support welfare for those who are less fortunate but it shouldn't be a way of life. My views are the same for unemployment checks. If you put someone in school for two years instead of paying for them to do nothing, then you'd still save money. Our society has become more lazy. The cashier at the store for my last visit told me he quit his previous job because they made him dust the ceiling fans. My grandfathers did alot more work than that when they were teenagers. This is what the far left has done to our great nation.
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« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2012, 04:59:12 pm »
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This is what the far left has done to our great nation.

How could the 'far left' do anything to your precious nation?  It hasn't been in power anywhere in the world in decades, and has never had any power or influence in the US.
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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2012, 12:45:43 am »
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This is what the far left has done to our great nation.

How could the 'far left' do anything to your precious nation?  It hasn't been in power anywhere in the world in decades, and has never had any power or influence in the US.

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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2012, 08:51:48 am »
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This is what the far left has done to our great nation.

How could the 'far left' do anything to your precious nation?  It hasn't been in power anywhere in the world in decades, and has never had any power or influence in the US.

'Left' and 'right' are relative terms, opebo. In the context of regular American politics, the 2009-2011 Democratic congressional majority was far left, and paid the price for it.
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« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2012, 02:08:16 pm »
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This is what the far left has done to our great nation.

How could the 'far left' do anything to your precious nation?  It hasn't been in power anywhere in the world in decades, and has never had any power or influence in the US.

'Left' and 'right' are relative terms, opebo. In the context of regular American politics, the 2009-2011 Democratic congressional majority was far left, and paid the price for it.

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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2012, 02:55:15 am »
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Quote from: Steve French on May 13, 2012, 08:11:53 pm
Ok. I'll be up front. I'm tired of people talking about being forced  to pay for a total stranger's healthcare or education when they are more than happy to pay to have a total stranger killed or destroyed in some other way.

Can't we be opposed to being forced to pay for both?
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2012, 10:22:48 am »
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Quote from: Steve French on May 13, 2012, 08:11:53 pm
Ok. I'll be up front. I'm tired of people talking about being forced  to pay for a total stranger's healthcare or education when they are more than happy to pay to have a total stranger killed or destroyed in some other way.

Can't we be opposed to being forced to pay for both?

The least common denominator just doesn't happen.
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