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« on: May 14, 2012, 03:37:47 pm »
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A Rapid City man is trying to remove President Barack Obama from the South Dakota ballot, saying he’s not a natural-born citizen and isn’t eligible to be president.
 
Thomas Scheveck’s complaint will be heard on Friday by the state Board of Elections.
 
Scheveck says Obama is not a natural-born citizen because his father, Barack Obama, Sr., was not a citizen.
 
Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was an American citizen. Obama was born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii.
 
Scheveck cites an 1875 U.S. Supreme Court case, Minor v. Happersett, to justify his position that without two citizen parents, Obama cannot be a natural-born citizen.
 
Section 1 of Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution requires the president of the United States to be a “natural-born citizen.”
 
That case, which concerned whether women had a right to vote under the Constitution, said it was “never doubted” that children of citizens born in their country were citizens. The opinion noted that “some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents,” saying there are some “doubts” as to that reasoning.
 
But because the plaintiff in the case was the child of two citizens, the court found it “not necessary” to examine that issue further.
 
The U.S. Supreme Court has never directly addressed the natural-born citizen clause as it applies to eligibility to be president.
 
A 2011 report by the Congressional Research Service concluded that there “is no provision in the Constitution and no controlling American case law to support a contention that the citizenship of one’s parents governs the eligibility of a native born U.S. citizen to be president.”
 
Scheveck also alleged that Obama has been using a fraudulent Social Security Number, and that the birth certificate Obama has released is “nothing more than a computer-generated forgery.”
 
Secretary of State Jason Gant said the first question the board has to decide is whether it’s the right body to consider Scheveck’s complaint.
 
Linda Lea Viken, a Rapid City attorney who fills one of the two Democratic spots on the board, said she’s not sure the board should be deciding the issue.
 
“It seems to me that it may more logically be for the Secretary of State to decide whether Barack Obama meets the requirements to be on the ballot,” Viken said.
 
If the board accepts Scheveck’s petition, Gant said it would be up to the board whether it would rule on the merits of his complaint right away, or set up a future hearing.
 
The Board of Elections meeting is public, but there are limited spaces on the conference call. Gant said there is public space in Pierre for members of the public who want to listen to and participate in the meeting.
 
Obama’s ballot eligibility has been challenged in other states, all unsuccessfully so far. Efforts to remove Obama from the ballot in New Hampshire, Georgia, Indiana and Alaska, among other states, have been rejected, some on technical grounds.
 
Repeated calls to Scheveck’s listed phone number were unsuccessful in reaching him.
 
The Obama campaign did not respond to a request for comment.
 
Ben Nesselhuf, chairman of the South Dakota Democratic Party, dismissed Scheveck’s complaint.
 
“This is an issue I thought was settled long ago, but some people just don’t let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory,” Nesselhuf said.
 
In an email, South Dakota Republican Party executive director Tony Post called Scheveck’s complaint a “distraction.”
 
“The state political parties are the entities that certify the presidential candidates, so Mr. Scheveck needs to take his complaint to the Democrats,” Post wrote. “We know how that plays out, so we'll just beat Mr. Obama this fall instead.”


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Of course its in my state! nothing but hicks and dudes with beerguts here.
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« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2012, 03:51:13 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 03:58:40 pm »
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Wow... I'm so shocked this hasn't been uncovered before. Why, this could be game changing the whole election!

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Seriously, why is this still an issue? This was beaten to death more than a year ago... I guess old conspiracy theories die hard.
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« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 04:13:43 pm »
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Why is the Board of Elections wasting their time with this crap?
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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 05:12:06 pm »
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lol.

If Obama's father is not a natural-born citizen than neither is Romney's....
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 05:18:17 pm »
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lol.

If Obama's father is not a natural-born citizen than neither is Romney's....

^^^^^^^^^ Yup! This.

I love it when birthers call Obama an illegal and then get behind Romney.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 09:16:03 pm »
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lol.

If Obama's father is not a natural-born citizen than neither is Romney's....

Obama's father was not even a US citizen, let alone natural-born.  Whether Romney's father was natural-born is questionable since he was born outside US territory, to parents who were US citizens, but not US residents, tho my opinion is that George was natural-born.

So are both Mitt and Barack.  You have to have a fairly xenophobic interpretation of natural-born that does not take notice of the XIVth Amendment to exclude either, tho under some of those Barack would be excluded while Mitt was not.
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 09:30:25 pm »
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There's a reason why the Birther view is still out there. Why won't he release his college transcripts like just about every other president had. I think your answers are likely there.

As for Romney, he wont be getting my support regardless of Birther contraversaries.
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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 09:47:06 pm »
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Why won't he release his college transcripts like just about every other president had.


Well long after Hawaii released a long form birth certificate, and yet people still doubted. I don't think he'll release any transcripts out of Columbia University because no matter what people still doubt.
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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2012, 09:52:16 pm »
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LOL, idiots. It would be hilarious if Orly Taitz got 2nd place next month in our US Senate race.
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Obama said he would bring transperancy to government. Releasing the records could put the Birther debate to rest wether or not he's a natural born citizen

LOL, idiots. It would be hilarious if Orly Taitz got 2nd place next month in our US Senate race.

I hope she wins
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Obama said he would bring transperancy to government. Releasing the records could put the Birther debate to rest wether or not he's a natural born citizen

LOL, idiots. It would be hilarious if Orly Taitz got 2nd place next month in our US Senate race.

I hope she wins

LOL at the idea of a birther  beating Feinstein in November.
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Obama said he would bring transperancy to government. Releasing the records could put the Birther debate to rest wether or not he's a natural born citizen

LOL, idiots. It would be hilarious if Orly Taitz got 2nd place next month in our US Senate race.

I hope she wins

He's released his birth certificate. What more do you want?
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2012, 12:35:20 am »
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Obama said he would bring transperancy to government. Releasing the records could put the Birther debate to rest wether or not he's a natural born citizen

LOL, idiots. It would be hilarious if Orly Taitz got 2nd place next month in our US Senate race.

I hope she wins

He's released his birth certificate. What more do you want?

He clearly wants Obama to admit that the birthplace of one of the major party nominees for President last time is not in the United States. Wink
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2012, 01:13:31 am »
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http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=145621.0
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2012, 01:18:46 am »
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Obama said he would bring transperancy to government. Releasing the records could put the Birther debate to rest wether or not he's a natural born citizen

LOL, idiots. It would be hilarious if Orly Taitz got 2nd place next month in our US Senate race.

I hope she wins

I hope this issue gets put into the spotlight and people like you get a loud say in the GOP

The Obama campaign appreciates your help
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