CBS/NYT: Romney up 3

[krazen1211]

https://twitter.com/#!/cbsjancrawford/statuses/202163971359383553

Romney takes 3-point lead over Obama in new CBS/NYT poll, 46 to 43%. A dead heat a month ago.




Month of MittMentum Marches on.

[Jayhawker]

Looking at the National Presidential numbers they've been putting out, they've always seemed to stay pretty consistent. Despite Rasmussen and Gallup frequently showing Romney ahead, I've always deep inside felt Obama was still leading. This is the first poll that's come out that makes me really feel Romney's winning this.

[Torie]

Did you notice in this poll, that the gender gap has disappeared?  The age gap is also muted, although still there. Does that impeach the poll, or suggest something is going on?

[Beet]

Romney is a much more formidable candidate than people give him credit for- he's the only guy who had a chance at beating Obama this year. People tend to confuse enthusiasm with electoral power, forgetting that elections are decided on a quantitative basis, not a psychological one.

As for the poll- yeah. Romney is winning by 3 even though Obama's approval rating is at 50, nearly the highest in two years. Obama's stance on gay marriage hurt him - it's unambiguous here. Romney's response sticking to his guns was perfect.

[Governor Scott]

Romney has led Obama within the margin of error before, so I doubt that Obama's gay marriage stance has anything to do with this.

[King]

forgetting that elections are decided on a quantitative basis, not a psychological one.

No.  No, that's not true at all.

[Invisible Obama]

Anyone with 50% approval does not trail in the top line, it doesn't add up. I'm pretty sure Romney's approval would still be underwater, even in this poll, but it doesn't appear it was provided.

[Pacific Councillor LiberalJunkie]

Nope it's an outlier.

[Governor NVGonzalez]

50% approval rating yet trailing by 3 and losing women by 2? Seems legit.

[Bandit3 the Worker]

This poll doesn't even use a random sample! They use a subset of their other recent poll that was completely discredited.

[All life is a blur of Republicans and meat.]

(Insert Sam Spade remark about CBS "polling".)

[Reaganfan]

If a CBS Poll showed Obama seven points ahead, then all the liberals on this forum would be saying, "Makes sense". But if a CBS Poll shows Romney three points ahead, they say, "Outlier".

I've seen three national polls in the last few days since Obama's gay marriage "evolution", and they've shown Romney +7, Romney +8 and Romney +3, respectively. But of course they're all outliers, right?

[Jayhawker]

If a CBS Poll showed Obama seven points ahead, then all the liberals on this forum would be saying, "Makes sense". But if a CBS Poll shows Romney three points ahead, they say, "Outlier".

I've seen three national polls in the last few days since Obama's gay marriage "evolution", and they've shown Romney +7, Romney +8 and Romney +3, respectively. But of course they're all outliers, right?

Yes. However, the two polls that had Obama leading by 7 and 8 are fine.

[Governor Scott]

I don't understand what's so bad about rejecting polls you don't think are accurate.  Myself and other liberals have no-noed many polls that give Obama or other Democrats the edge but don't appear credible for one reason or another.  I guess ultra-partisanship really does blind people.

Maybe it's just not worth pointing out a poll's flaws anymore, since the other side is just going to whine about it anyway.

[Invisible Obama]

If a CBS Poll showed Obama seven points ahead, then all the liberals on this forum would be saying, "Makes sense". But if a CBS Poll shows Romney three points ahead, they say, "Outlier".

I've seen three national polls in the last few days since Obama's gay marriage "evolution", and they've shown Romney +7, Romney +8 and Romney +3, respectively. But of course they're all outliers, right?

And polls that show Obama up are rejected by conservatives on the forum as wrong, so that argument can go around and around. What is clear is that conservatives want to accept this particular poll despite obvious flaws with it. It makes no sense how 50% approval translates into a 2% deficit in the top line. Be realistic.

[Tender Branson]

Joke poll, because women back Romney by 2 in this poll.

[Fuzzy]

Joke poll, because women back Romney by 2 in this poll.

This. Seriously.

[Nagas]

I don't understand what's so bad about rejecting polls you don't think are accurate.  Myself and other liberals have no-noed many polls that give Obama or other Democrats the edge but don't appear credible for one reason or another.  I guess ultra-partisanship really does blind people.

Maybe it's just not worth pointing out a poll's flaws anymore, since the other side is just going to whine about it anyway.

Selective memory is a funny thing.

[A dog on every car, a car in every elevator]

I've seen three national polls in the last few days since Obama's gay marriage "evolution", and they've shown Romney +7, Romney +8 and Romney +3, respectively. But of course they're all outliers, right?

What are the Romney +7 and Romney +8 nationals?

[Tender Branson]

I've seen three national polls in the last few days since Obama's gay marriage "evolution", and they've shown Romney +7, Romney +8 and Romney +3, respectively. But of course they're all outliers, right?

What are the Romney +7 and Romney +8 nationals?

(R) asmussen

[Bandit3 the Worker]

What are the Romney +7 and Romney +8 nationals?

The worst I saw was a Rasmutant +7. Never saw a +8.

[5280/East California]

I think it's a reliable poll, the Democrats on this forum will call it junk cause they don't like it.  Typical of these forums, which represent a minority of the voters in the US.

[IDS Speaker Ben Kenobi]

Romney is a much more formidable candidate than people give him credit for

He'll do worse, far worse, than McCain.

[Governor Scott]

MSNBC/Scott's Polling Company: Obama up 20

https://twitter.com/#!/randompersonstwitter

Obama takes 20-point lead over Romney in a new poll, 60 to 40%.  A dead heat a month ago.

Anyone who calls this poll junk obviously just doesn't like the result!  Wah!

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

I hate this subforum and need to avoid it at all costs.