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« Reply #700 on: October 10, 2012, 11:52:27 pm »
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There is absolutely nothing that can be used to predict when we will have another non-white president.  It is an ignorant statement.

There are often barriers for African-Americans seeking statewide office (for a variety of reasons that aren't particularly relevant right now). Which is why we have no African-American senators. VRA districts and all. Remember, Barack Obama's stint into a VRA district ended in disaster.

There are very few, if at all any, black politicians as of right now who could make even a plausibly successful run for President. Simple as that. And even if there are (I'm looking at you Cory Booker), they're only one of many many plausible candidates. So unless being black makes you 50x more likely to win a primary election, it is exceedingly unlikely that we will have another non-white President in the next few years.

It is exceedingly improbable for the next president, or the president after that
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« Reply #701 on: October 10, 2012, 11:53:35 pm »
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Really irrelevant. There is no such thing as a non-capitalistic democracy.

I know people will claim this has been taken out of context, but the idea is so ridiculous there is no excuse.
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« Reply #702 on: October 11, 2012, 12:01:48 am »
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There is absolutely nothing that can be used to predict when we will have another non-white president.  It is an ignorant statement.

There are often barriers for African-Americans seeking statewide office (for a variety of reasons that aren't particularly relevant right now). Which is why we have no African-American senators. VRA districts and all. Remember, Barack Obama's stint into a VRA district ended in disaster.

There are very few, if at all any, black politicians as of right now who could make even a plausibly successful run for President. Simple as that. And even if there are (I'm looking at you Cory Booker), they're only one of many many plausible candidates. So unless being black makes you 50x more likely to win a primary election, it is exceedingly unlikely that we will have another non-white President in the next few years.

It is exceedingly improbable for the next president, or the president after that

No it isn't.  Demographics have been changing for decades now and just because there aren't any African-American senators doesn't mean there won't be in two or four years.  Yes, we have Cory Booker.  We have Deval Patrick, as well.  Republicans have Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal.  No one can predict exactly how many white presidents there will be in the future just as no one could have predicted the election of an African-American president ten years ago.

It is an ignorant and baseless statement.  I can't believe I'm actually having an argument about this.
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« Reply #703 on: October 11, 2012, 02:01:31 am »
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There is absolutely nothing that can be used to predict when we will have another non-white president.  It is an ignorant statement.

There are often barriers for African-Americans seeking statewide office (for a variety of reasons that aren't particularly relevant right now). Which is why we have no African-American senators. VRA districts and all. Remember, Barack Obama's stint into a VRA district ended in disaster.

There are very few, if at all any, black politicians as of right now who could make even a plausibly successful run for President. Simple as that. And even if there are (I'm looking at you Cory Booker), they're only one of many many plausible candidates. So unless being black makes you 50x more likely to win a primary election, it is exceedingly unlikely that we will have another non-white President in the next few years.

It is exceedingly improbable for the next president, or the president after that

No it isn't.  Demographics have been changing for decades now and just because there aren't any African-American senators doesn't mean there won't be in two or four years.  Yes, we have Cory Booker.  We have Deval Patrick, as well.  Republicans have Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal.  No one can predict exactly how many white presidents there will be in the future just as no one could have predicted the election of an African-American president ten years ago.

It is an ignorant and baseless statement.  I can't believe I'm actually having an argument about this.

Also, as you've touched on, there are non-whites who aren't black. There are more Hispanics and South Asians representing non-overwhelmingly-Hispanic/South Asian constituencies than one might think.
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« Reply #704 on: October 11, 2012, 09:40:48 am »
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Don't you mean "erases Barack's lead"? Your headline makes it sound like Romney's winning in a landslide. Tongue

I think most people would understand that to "erase a lead" implies pulling even, not a landslide.

Which is exactly why he said it should say "erases Barack's lead" instead of what Naso actually posted that is "erases Barack". I guess reading comprehension isn't something tested for MENSA membership.

I guess you do need to be in Mensa to understand that virtually no one says "erase" to mean "destroy" or "wins in a landslide."  

Naso, for BRTD's sake, use tiny words.

You still haven't figured it out.

I have.  You don't.
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« Reply #705 on: October 11, 2012, 01:17:37 pm »
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There is absolutely nothing that can be used to predict when we will have another non-white president.  It is an ignorant statement.

There are often barriers for African-Americans seeking statewide office (for a variety of reasons that aren't particularly relevant right now). Which is why we have no African-American senators. VRA districts and all. Remember, Barack Obama's stint into a VRA district ended in disaster.

There are very few, if at all any, black politicians as of right now who could make even a plausibly successful run for President. Simple as that. And even if there are (I'm looking at you Cory Booker), they're only one of many many plausible candidates. So unless being black makes you 50x more likely to win a primary election, it is exceedingly unlikely that we will have another non-white President in the next few years.

It is exceedingly improbable for the next president, or the president after that

No it isn't.  Demographics have been changing for decades now and just because there aren't any African-American senators doesn't mean there won't be in two or four years.  Yes, we have Cory Booker.  We have Deval Patrick, as well.  Republicans have Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal.  No one can predict exactly how many white presidents there will be in the future just as no one could have predicted the election of an African-American president ten years ago.

It is an ignorant and baseless statement.  I can't believe I'm actually having an argument about this.

Also, as you've touched on, there are non-whites who aren't black. There are more Hispanics and South Asians representing non-overwhelmingly-Hispanic/South Asian constituencies than one might think.

It's Winfield... the only real debate to be had is whether we should refrain from adding his posts to the deluge and instead assume that they all belong here.
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« Reply #706 on: October 11, 2012, 03:57:13 pm »
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If President Obama doesn't turn things around in the second (townhall) debate, then yes he would likely be finished.  We would all be talking about the last great triumph of White America with the election of Mitt Romney -this being the last election in U.S. history in which a presidential candidate can be elected to the Presidency primarily on the backs of white voters.    

I agree, the next President will be Black or Hispanic.  There will be no more white presidents in my lifetime.  The Hispanic growth is just too strong to ignore.  There is a small number of illegal hispanics, but when Obama wins his second term, he will hopefully legalize or give green cards to Hispanic illegals.  The next president would likely be fluent in Spanish.  In addition, I hope the next president is a Roman Catholic, because for too long the white americans have branded good Catholics Like Ted Kennedy as extremists.  This election is about respect.  Brown skinned Americans will finally get the respect they deserve.
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« Reply #707 on: October 11, 2012, 06:08:28 pm »
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Sarcasm. Etc.
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« Reply #708 on: October 12, 2012, 03:47:27 pm »

The fact that Ryan only won a +4 plurality in a R+2 sample (and not to get into crosstabs too much here) means he is a big loser.

You apparently can't do math. If you readjusted to D+3 it would be a tie. Tie doesn't equal loser.

Apparently Wonkish can't do math either.
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« Reply #709 on: October 13, 2012, 11:57:10 am »
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Joe Biden is no Catholic.  You cannot spend 40 years supporting abortion in public office and be Catholic, period.
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« Reply #710 on: October 15, 2012, 05:19:20 pm »
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The fact that Ryan only won a +4 plurality in a R+2 sample (and not to get into crosstabs too much here) means he is a big loser.

You apparently can't do math. If you readjusted to D+3 it would be a tie. Tie doesn't equal loser.

Apparently Wonkish can't do math either.

Anybody that read that knew what I meant. That after the adjustment it's essentially a tied poll. Don't read more into things than are there for only the purpose of trying to hit at me. Especially considering how much stuff you've written that could fill this thread(a lot easier for me to do to you than you to me).

Also since there is likely crossover(Dem's finding Ryan winner and GOP finding Biden winner) the net affect of the shift would actually be less than 5 which means if you really wanted to be a stickler my math is probably very accurate(even in some weird universe where you can somehow predict what the exact sample should have looked like given the polls exact methodology).
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« Reply #711 on: October 16, 2012, 01:16:16 am »
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Some of you guys live in solid democrat counties.  At least in a competitive districts, they mean something.

Believe it or not, a vote cast in a solidly Democratic county has the same weight as one cast in a swing county. Who knew!
I mean, if you're a Republican voting in a solid Democrat county, what's the point of voting? Might as well live somewhere else.
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« Reply #712 on: October 16, 2012, 07:02:15 pm »
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This has got to be one of the dumbest posts in forum history.

He also would have the least number or least diverse combination of 'American Nations' in the Modern Era.


Dems look to win Yankeedom and (Yankeedom's off spring) the Left coast.  1 state of El Norte (New Mexico).   So, That's 1of9 nations or 2of10 depending on how you look at it. 
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« Reply #713 on: October 16, 2012, 07:06:13 pm »
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It's certainly the dumbest map posted in this forum's history.
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« Reply #714 on: October 16, 2012, 11:15:57 pm »
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It's certainly the dumbest map posted in this forum's history.

Whether whoever made it is more ignorant of Canada or the US is very hard to pin down. North Dakota is downright hilarious too.
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« Reply #715 on: October 18, 2012, 12:44:23 am »
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Mister Twister telling someone to stop trolling is absurd in itself, but context is ABSOLUTELY needed here.

Stop trolling.
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« Reply #716 on: October 18, 2012, 12:56:27 am »
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Mister Twister telling someone to stop trolling is absurd in itself, but context is ABSOLUTELY needed here.

Stop trolling.

     That may be the greatest post to ever come out of the 2012 boards, for its sheer comedy value alone.
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« Reply #717 on: October 18, 2012, 10:59:54 am »
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OK it doesn't top the previous entry, but still needs to be mentioned:

Good to see Heller will break the vicious gerrymander

...in reference to a Senate race.
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« Reply #718 on: October 18, 2012, 11:11:56 am »
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OK it doesn't top the previous entry, but still needs to be mentioned:

Good to see Heller will break the vicious gerrymander

...in reference to a Senate race.

Pretty sure he was making fun of krazen.
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« Reply #719 on: October 18, 2012, 01:25:06 pm »
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Have you not noticed those public sector union lords collecting massive dues and encouraging their overpaid minions to vote for Democrats?
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« Reply #720 on: October 18, 2012, 03:04:48 pm »
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From a poll regarding Three Days Grace, a less-than-good but better-than-okay band that reached their pinnacle in like 2006 and hasn't done anything half as good since:

They're perhaps the greatest band to come out of Canada. You're opinion?
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« Reply #721 on: October 18, 2012, 03:17:27 pm »
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From a poll regarding Three Days Grace, a less-than-good but better-than-okay band that reached their pinnacle in like 2006 and hasn't done anything half as good since:

They're perhaps the greatest band to come out of Canada. You're opinion?

Of course this is wrong, but to be fair, most really seminal musicians from Canada do seem to be primarily solo artists (then again, there might be some bands that I'm not aware are from Canada).

ETA: If we're using a one-drop rule then CSNY was Canadian.
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« Reply #722 on: October 18, 2012, 03:45:29 pm »
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The race feels like 2004, but the election turnout on election night will be 1980.
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« Reply #723 on: October 18, 2012, 06:46:19 pm »
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The race feels like 2004, but the election turnout on election night will be 1980.
How is that a bad post?  What if the result happens?
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« Reply #724 on: October 18, 2012, 06:53:03 pm »
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OK it doesn't top the previous entry, but still needs to be mentioned:

Good to see Heller will break the vicious gerrymander

...in reference to a Senate race.

Pretty sure he was making fun of krazen.
Yeah, context doesn't make that so stupid.
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