The Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Racism, like most isms, is not binary. Nixon's objective was to walk the tightrope between Humphrey's strong and longstanding record on Civil Rights and Wallace. Nixon positioned himself as a happy medium. His racism was just right

Nixon was not a racist.  He actually had a much better civil rights record as president than LBJ.  Here's a Nixon campaign ad from 1960 to prove that:
http://www.youtube.com/index?&desktop_uri=%2F#/watch?v=dAlZHfaksQM

If he supported civil rights in 1960, then what makes you think he would have such an about-face in just eight years?  I think much of he Nixon-as-racist myth comes from the fact that Nixon simply makes an easy pinata for left-wing historians because of Watergate.  But that doesn't change the fact that Nixon was one of our best presidents on civl rights.  

Continually quoting his talk on this type of stuff here is kind of beating a dead horse but:

WND and National Review?  Nice unbiased, intellectually honest sources you got there.

1980 had Carter at the top of the ticket (as well as John Anderson to slow the flight of moderate northerners to the Democratic Party, in a counterpoint to Wallace), and as I already mentioned, he ran the most Southern and evangelical candidacy probably ever.  Any other Dem candidate, and the patterns would likely have emerged eight years sooner- and they already had started emerging in the Northeast, he mainly just held onto the South at the expense of not taking the West Coast.

And, of course, the Southern Strategy is undisputed fact.

No, it's not.  Nixon trying to pander to racists with Wallace in the race would be like a Republican presidential canidate campaigning in California or a Democrat in Texas today.  The Southern strategy was about winning the pro-civil rights moderates who had moved to the South after WWII as a protest against the segregationist Democrats.

It's true, though.  THe white racists were already safely in Wallace's column.

Debunked in the original thread. And I was referring primarily to the last sentence, which only makes sense if you consider Strom Thurmond a pro-civil rights moderate. And completely ignore what Nixon's political strategist said.

Which of Nixon's strategists?  Don't say Lee Atwater because he was only 17 in 1968, so he couldn't have been one of Nixon's strategists.  And the simple fact is, plenty of moderate Northerners moved to the South in the 50s and 60s, and they were much more inclined to support civil rights, and thus Republican candidates.  So my explanatio  makes perfect sense, and it's also what another Nixon strategist (Pat Buchanan) said about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Phillips_(political_commentator)

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He may have said that, but it would have made no sense for Nixon to do that, so he was in the minority on wantinf to pursue that kind of course.  And remember what LBJ said about blacks after signing the '64 CRA:

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And this one is from Theodore White's 1968 edition of The Making of the President, which was written during the 1968 campagin.  I doubt he was a right-winger, considering his background, but here's the quote:

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Finally, why do you accuse me of having unreliable sources when you're citing Wikipedia as one of yours?

[Niemeyerite]

3. What I've said is backed up by historical evidence.  I realize that there are bad Republicans and good Democrats, but those people seem to be in the minority, in my opinion.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

How unfortunate.

[Antonio the Sixth]

How unfortunate.

Came here to post this.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

One think that confuses me is why hispanics voted for Obama overwhelmingly. First off, he is black, in LA I have heard of tensions between blacks and hispanics.


  What specifically gives him appeal to hispanics?

[morgieb]

If the Reform party gets its act together then yes NY will become a swing state.

[Paul Kemp]

Other than O'Malley, all the democratic candidates are to the right of Obama, there is very little room to the left of Obama.

[Simfan34]

Very stupid. He did nothing wrong.

He broke the law.

So did Rosa Parks.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Very stupid. He did nothing wrong.

He broke the law.

So did Rosa Parks.

Oh man even if he's trolling this is really dumb

[Paul Kemp]

Very stupid. He did nothing wrong.

He broke the law.

So did Rosa Parks.

Oh man even if he's trolling this is really dumb

It's classic BRTD.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I've stated many times I never have any problem with violating laws I think are stupid, if not I'd be a hypocrite since on New Year's Eve I was briefly involved in passing around a joint between sets. But it appears he was doing more than consuming alcohol, so I have to retract my statement.

[Oakvale]

cc: Deluge

space biker

Is this some lesbian slur I've never heard of? Mods, please ban.

No.  It's a reference to My Life as a Teenage Robot.  On that show, there was a group called the Space Bikers (who I never really cared for).  Janet Napolitano always reminded me of Letta, the leader, (especially after the 2008 DNC) because she was a loudmouth who looked and sounded kind of like her.  One of them was also named Tammy, so that name always reminds me of them.  Hence the space biker comment.

http://teenagerobot.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Bikers

[Donerail]

The whole state of Alabama should be the target of surgical strikes.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The whole state of Alabama should be the target of surgical strikes.

I don't think surgeons have labor unions.

[Simfan34]

I, too, dislike the voting patterns of most of the Romney states, but simply because they make the GOP look bad (and thus should be blue-leaning states.)

[Comrade Funk]

Actually the current PA legislature was elected with the heavily Democrat favored lines that gave Democrats extra seats in Allegheny County that they should not have.

[Niemeyerite]

I, too, dislike the voting patterns of most of the Romney states, but simply because they make the GOP look bad (and thus should be blue-leaning states.)

That's hilarious.

[Paul Kemp]

Oh no...

I remember a few years ago when Avatar was nominated for Best Picture.  I didn't like it that much when I saw it, but I thought it deserved it since it made such ridiculous money.  When it lost to Hurt Locker, I was shocked", although I have a feeling that it was politically motivated (which would be odd since Avatar seemed to portray a situation similar to what happened to the Native Americans, and it also seemed to convey some environmentalist messages.)  I hope Lincoln get it.  If not, then we'll know it's because those guys know their history, realize Lincoln was a Republican, and don't like the history that was portrayed in the film.  (Sound familiar?)

BTW: please forgive me for asking, but what's the difference between the Oscars and the Golden Globes?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Wow. Oldies managed to come up with 4-5 absurd things unrelated to each other and combine them in a single post.

[Lief 🗽]

Yeah, that entire post really is a gem.

[Simfan34]

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Copypaste, or does he really feel strongly about communications degrees?

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WTF kind of name is that?

[Donerail]

University professors, marketing researchers, media editors and designers, journalists, advertising executives, actors, human resources managers, corporate trainers, public relations practitioners, and media managers and consultants. You'll see it as communication, communication studies, speech communication, rhetorical studies, communication sciences, media studies, communication arts, mass communication, media ecology, and communication and media science.

Copypaste, or does he really feel strongly about communications degrees?

It seemed nicer than just saying this.

[JerryArkansas]

Obama reminds me of Pol Pot. Would claim to be trying to set up a left wing utopia when in reality he would be creating a cult of personality authoritarian dictatorship.

[MasterJedi]

Obama reminds me of Pol Pot. Would claim to be trying to set up a left wing utopia when in reality he would be creating a cult of personality authoritarian dictatorship.

You don't know opebo do you? He's opening admited to not really caring about left wing causes/the rights of people/etc. Case and point, he supported Gaddafi.