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Question: (1) Is the Atlasian political landscape better than it was before the major parties' dissolution? (2) Would you characterize those efforts as being a "success"?
(1) Things are better   -9 (17.3%)
(1) Things are about the same   -5 (9.6%)
(1) Things are worse   -10 (19.2%)
(1) Don't know/no opinion   -2 (3.8%)
(2) The reforms have been successful   -7 (13.5%)
(2) The reforms have not been successful   -15 (28.8%)
(2) Don't know/no opinion   -4 (7.7%)
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« on: May 15, 2012, 06:34:10 pm »
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The reforms in question are the dissolution of the JCP and RPP.
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2012, 06:40:11 pm »
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Things are about the same and have not been successful. The Liberal Party has assumed the role of the JCP, the Labour is the UDL, the Whig is the RPP and the IB is basically SPA.
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2012, 06:45:32 pm »
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Better, but not successful.
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2012, 07:30:49 pm »
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How has the Liberal Party assumed the role of the JCP?

I voted against dissolution but I think the party structure is better now. Obviously it would be nice if the parties were ideological but I don't need to go there.
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2012, 07:34:11 pm »
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Success is relative. I think there was a general desire to replace the previous power structures, perhaps even more among the previous power structures at least on the JCP side. I am having a lot more fun in the game without the RPP attack machine making things unpleasant; we have a much more positive attitude on both sides.
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2012, 07:38:33 pm »
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How quickly you seem to have forgotten just how stagnant the old structure was. Dissolution was always going to be a step forward, not a magical cure-all.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2012, 07:43:14 pm »
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How has the Liberal Party assumed the role of the JCP?

Dominant left-of-center party, some libertarians/right wingers.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2012, 07:44:32 pm »
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How quickly you seem to have forgotten just how stagnant the old structure was. Dissolution was always going to be a step forward, not a magical cure-all.
Says the Independent. Tongue Sad
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2012, 07:45:58 pm »
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How has the Liberal Party assumed the role of the JCP?

Dominant left-of-center party, some libertarians/right wingers.

Well we are derived from the Liberal Caucus...that is about it.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 07:48:04 pm »
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How has the Liberal Party assumed the role of the JCP?

Dominant left-of-center party, some libertarians/right wingers.

Well we are derived from the Liberal Caucus...that is about it.

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 08:09:31 pm »
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There isn't the same kind of homogeneous globs of parties... I mean there are still mixes that don't necessarily make a lot of sense... but I think it will make the Presidential races interesting for the near future.
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 08:28:50 pm »
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There isn't the same kind of homogeneous globs of parties... I mean there are still mixes that don't necessarily make a lot of sense... but I think it will make the Presidential races interesting for the near future.

Totally.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2012, 10:23:44 am »
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Things are better and dissolution has been a success - for now. But in order to remain on a good track we need to make sure that the new parties remain ideologically identifiable and don't become big-tent parties.

This is why I've hoped (and am still hoping) that a center-right party appears which complements the Whig Party. Sort of like the Moderate Party, just with more active leaders who are willing to bring the party forward.
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2012, 11:10:37 am »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2012, 11:16:25 am »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.

Let's see ... you seem to be too liberal for the Whig Party, at least on economic issues (on the other hand if you're pro-life the Whig Party is not a bad fit for you). You are too conservative on social issues for the Liberal Party ... the Imperial Bloc is for Southerners only, the Moderate Party, like the Popular Liberty Party, is almost non-existent. Maybe Labor? They seem to focus more on economic than on social issues. And you are pretty left economically, aren't you?
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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2012, 11:55:45 am »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.
Join the Whigs man! We got cookies!
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2012, 12:25:55 pm »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.

Let's see ... you seem to be too liberal for the Whig Party, at least on economic issues (on the other hand if you're pro-life the Whig Party is not a bad fit for you). You are too conservative on social issues for the Liberal Party ... the Imperial Bloc is for Southerners only, the Moderate Party, like the Popular Liberty Party, is almost non-existent. Maybe Labor? They seem to focus more on economic than on social issues. And you are pretty left economically, aren't you?

Sounds about right.  I'll wait to hear from a representative from their party :-p
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2012, 01:58:09 pm »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.
Let's see ... you seem to be too liberal for the Whig Party, at least on economic issues (on the other hand if you're pro-life the Whig Party is not a bad fit for you). You are too conservative on social issues for the Liberal Party ... the Imperial Bloc is for Southerners only, the Moderate Party, like the Popular Liberty Party, is almost non-existent. Maybe Labor? They seem to focus more on economic than on social issues. And you are pretty left economically, aren't you?
Sounds about right.  I'll wait to hear from a representative from their party :-p
Otoh your closer to the average Liberals econ score than the farther left Labor Party that has no members in the Mideast. Wink  There isn't much difference on social issues, on the surface. We have champagne!
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2012, 02:43:39 pm »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.

Let's see ... you seem to be too liberal for the Whig Party, at least on economic issues (on the other hand if you're pro-life the Whig Party is not a bad fit for you). You are too conservative on social issues for the Liberal Party ... the Imperial Bloc is for Southerners only, the Moderate Party, like the Popular Liberty Party, is almost non-existent. Maybe Labor? They seem to focus more on economic than on social issues. And you are pretty left economically, aren't you?

We don't restrict membership to just Southerners, it's a party for promoting the interests of the South, so he could join the IB.
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2012, 03:24:53 pm »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.

Let's see ... you seem to be too liberal for the Whig Party, at least on economic issues (on the other hand if you're pro-life the Whig Party is not a bad fit for you). You are too conservative on social issues for the Liberal Party ... the Imperial Bloc is for Southerners only, the Moderate Party, like the Popular Liberty Party, is almost non-existent. Maybe Labor? They seem to focus more on economic than on social issues. And you are pretty left economically, aren't you?

I'd like to say that the Whig party is considerably more social-conservative than it is economic-conservative, at least through my intention.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2012, 03:27:54 pm »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.

Let's see ... you seem to be too liberal for the Whig Party, at least on economic issues (on the other hand if you're pro-life the Whig Party is not a bad fit for you). You are too conservative on social issues for the Liberal Party ... the Imperial Bloc is for Southerners only, the Moderate Party, like the Popular Liberty Party, is almost non-existent. Maybe Labor? They seem to focus more on economic than on social issues. And you are pretty left economically, aren't you?

I'd like to say that the Whig party is considerably more social-conservative than it is economic-conservative, at least through my intention.

Both the average social and economic score are clearly on the plus side, for what it's worth. But you raise an important point, we have to specify our economic platform in our party thread.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2012, 03:56:58 pm »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.

Let's see ... you seem to be too liberal for the Whig Party, at least on economic issues (on the other hand if you're pro-life the Whig Party is not a bad fit for you). You are too conservative on social issues for the Liberal Party ... the Imperial Bloc is for Southerners only, the Moderate Party, like the Popular Liberty Party, is almost non-existent. Maybe Labor? They seem to focus more on economic than on social issues. And you are pretty left economically, aren't you?

We don't restrict membership to just Southerners, it's a party for promoting the interests of the South, so he could join the IB.

But why would he want to do that? But ultimately the Whigs are a broad-based party.
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2012, 03:58:29 pm »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.

Let's see ... you seem to be too liberal for the Whig Party, at least on economic issues (on the other hand if you're pro-life the Whig Party is not a bad fit for you). You are too conservative on social issues for the Liberal Party ... the Imperial Bloc is for Southerners only, the Moderate Party, like the Popular Liberty Party, is almost non-existent. Maybe Labor? They seem to focus more on economic than on social issues. And you are pretty left economically, aren't you?

We don't restrict membership to just Southerners, it's a party for promoting the interests of the South, so he could join the IB.

But why would he want to do that? But ultimately the Whigs are a broad-based party.

Well, he is in Maryland, which while not part of the IDS is considered Southern under certain definitions.
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2012, 03:59:15 pm »
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.

You should join the Rally for the Republic.
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I still don't know anything about any of these new parties, hence why I remain an independent.

You should join the Rally for the Republic.

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