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French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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Hashemite
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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Reply #225 on:
June 10, 2012, 12:30:40 pm »
Soooo, yeah, I've opened the #legislatives2012 chatroom on Mibbit. Join me, it's getting lonely.
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20:12 oakvale Taylor Swift's 22 was originally titled 75 in reference to her ex Flanby's proposed tax rate
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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June 16, 2012, 03:25:59 pm »
Whats a ZUS? Is it like a council estate/housing project? (I was reading the description of Roubaix upthread). Great job btw. have you done all circonsriptions now?
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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June 16, 2012, 08:13:03 pm »
Quote from: Pete Whitehead on June 16, 2012, 03:25:59 pm
Whats a ZUS? Is it like a council estate/housing project? (I was reading the description of Roubaix upthread). Great job btw. have you done all circonsriptions now?
It's a "Sensitive Urban Zone", which is a poor place, usually made of towers and/or gigantic concrete buildings, which are filled with poor people, which are in a disrepair state.
A 2000-era slum, in short. None is choosing to live there.
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Pete Whitehead
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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June 17, 2012, 06:43:01 am »
Thanks. Is there anywhere available online census stats by constituency (or other level, commune, department whatever). It would be particularly interesting to see figures for ethnic minority groups, religious groups etc, but I don;t think the French collate that data
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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June 17, 2012, 06:56:34 am »
Quote from: Pete Whitehead on June 17, 2012, 06:43:01 am
Thanks. Is there anywhere available online census stats by constituency (or other level, commune, department whatever). It would be particularly interesting to see figures for ethnic minority groups, religious groups etc, but I don;t think the French collate that data
Indeed. There is no such thing as ethnicity stats in France. No idea for religion, but, if you want to have a look by yourself, here is the website of France's statistic agency :
http://www.insee.fr/en/
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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Reply #230 on:
June 17, 2012, 06:58:33 am »
Many things uploaded here over the years as well:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=59924.75
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Hashemite
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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Reply #231 on:
June 17, 2012, 08:43:14 am »
France has numbers for the general "foreign" population and some data on "immigrant population" which is harder to find.
The Ministry of Housing and Territorial Equality has a wonderful statistical atlas about ZUS and other urban areas, which allows you to quickly look at main demographic stats down to the tract level in large urban areas:
http://sig.ville.gouv.fr/
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20:12 oakvale Taylor Swift's 22 was originally titled 75 in reference to her ex Flanby's proposed tax rate
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
Californian Tony
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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June 18, 2012, 02:49:01 pm »
Here's a little map of the "upsets" compared to your predictions :
Right upsets : 25 (rated : 17 tossup, 6 lean, 2 favoured)
Left upsets : 13 (rated : 10 tossup, 3 lean)
Far-right upset : 1 (rated lean)
Taking back your numbers, it gives :
Safe left 220/220 = 100%
Left favoured 44/46 = 96%
Lean left 44/51 = 86%
Tossup - left edge 22/39 =56%
Centre favoured 1/1 = 100%
Lean centre 1/1 = 100%
Tossup - right edge 29/39 = 74%
Lean right 51/54 = 94%
Right favoured 59/59 = 100%
Safe right 65/65 = 100%
Lean EXD 1/1 = 100%
Tossup - EXD edge 1/1 = 100%
Left overall 330/356 = 93% (97% excluding tossups)
Right overall 204/217 = 94% (98% excluding tossups)
Others 4/4 = 100%
Tossup 52/79 = 66%
Lean 97/107 = 91%
Favoured 104/106 = 98%
Safe 285/285 = 100%
Overall 538/577 =
93%
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Congrats !
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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June 19, 2012, 10:36:25 am »
And, to compare with Fab :
Right upsets : 28 (+3 : right on Loiret-2
and Essonne-4
, wrong on Drôme-2, Isère-7, BR-3 and S&M-7)
Left upsets : 15 (+2 : right on Vienne-4, wrong on Sarthe-1, Hérault-6 and FdE-8)
Far-right upset : 2 (+1 : wrong on Vaucluse-3)
Overall success was 92%. Of your 10 "disagreements", Gaël was right for 8 and Fab for 2.
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Last Edit: June 24, 2012, 06:34:23 am by Objectif atteint
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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Reply #234 on:
June 19, 2012, 01:04:07 pm »
Drôme and Vaucluse are sh***y departements
And Seine-et-Marne too !
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Hashemite
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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June 19, 2012, 03:55:08 pm »
FTR, I changed my prediction in Essonne-4 (to a NKM win) on Saturday. But I'm pleased that I did marginally better than Fab.
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20:12 oakvale Taylor Swift's 22 was originally titled 75 in reference to her ex Flanby's proposed tax rate
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20:49 Snowstalker yes, but i'm the kind of fascist who would have backed the allies
20:57 Snowstalker sadly, it's a legitimate ideology tarnished by the incompetent mussolini and the vile hitler
Californian Tony
Antonio V
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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June 19, 2012, 04:15:42 pm »
Quote from: Intellectual Terrorist on June 19, 2012, 03:55:08 pm
FTR, I changed my prediction in Essonne-4 (to a NKM win) on Saturday. But I'm pleased that I did marginally better than Fab.
Ah, sorry, I was a bit confused about which of the maps you posted was your final one.
Please let me know if I made any other mistake.
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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June 20, 2012, 03:13:26 am »
Quote from: Intellectual Terrorist on June 19, 2012, 03:55:08 pm
FTR, I changed my prediction in Essonne-4 (to a NKM win) on Saturday. But I'm pleased that I did marginally better than Fab.
Go live in Pierrelatte or in Torcy and don't bother me !
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Re: French Legislative Elections 2012: Hashemite's Guide and Predictions
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Reply #238 on:
June 24, 2012, 01:15:15 pm »
Just to finish off, I crossed the list of the upsets with that of close races (won by less than 2 points). Don't know if it might be interesting.
Rated as tossup - close (15) :
Wallis-et-Futuna-AL
Corse-du-Sud-1
Bouches-du-Rhône-11
Vaucluse-5
Vosges-2
Loiret-2
Indre-et-Loire-2
Sarthe-5
Seine-Maritime-7
Oise-2
Saône-et-Loire-4
Doubs-2
Loiret-6
Vienne-4
Calvados-5
Rated as tossup - not close (12) :
Corse-du-Sud-2
Drôme-1
Drôme-3
Haute-Loire-2
Yonne-1
Ille-et-Vilaine-6
Seine-et-Marne-9
Mayotte-2
Saône-et-Loire-1
Vendée-2
Vendée-5
Orne-1
Rated as lean/favored - close (7) :
Aveyron-1
Yvelines-7
Val-d'Oise-2
Val-d'Oise-7
Haute-Garonne-3
(favored)
Yonne-2
Gard-2
Rated as lean/favored - not close (5) :
Territoire-de-Belfort-2
Nord-5
Loire-4
(favored)
Maine-et-Loire-6
Manche-3
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