Will Keith Judd get any delegates at the convention?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The DNC has already disqualified Randall Terry, not sure if they'll disqualify Judd or that guy in Oklahoma.

Personally I would oppose disqualifying either one.

[Nhoj]

Judd is in prison so they will probably toss any he gets out for that reason. Wolfe and the Oklahoma guy might though if they have delegates.

[All Along The Watchtower]

Nothing can stop Juddmentum at this point.

[RogueBeaver]

Any delegates not pledged to Obama will be barred.

[Eraserhead]

Probably not. He should though.

[Oakvale]

Nah. Nor should he.

[Joe Republic]

The DNC has already disqualified Randall Terry

What was their reasoning?

This is all irrelevant anyway; the nomination will be by acclamation.

[politicus]

Nah. Nor should he.

Care to explain why?

Any delegates not pledged to Obama will be barred.

Its blatantly undemocratic that they can do this and strange that so many Americans seem to think its allright.

[Oakvale]

Nah. Nor should he.

Care to explain why?

Any delegates not pledged to Obama will be barred.

Its blatantly undemocratic that they can do this and strange that so many Americans seem to think its allright.

Even putting aside the fact that holding joke primaries to renominate a sitting President is ridiculous and a waste of everyone's time and money, Judd didn't file a delegate slate or any of the other ncessary paperwork, and isn't eligible to receive any delegates.
 
Useless primaries are annoying - see: Obama 2012, Bush 2004, Clinton 1996, Bush 1992, etc, etc, etc... all the way back until Carter-Kennedy 1980, which is the last time there was an actual race.

The Dems and Republicans really need to institute some kind of viability barrier for allowing canddiates on the ballot. This would mean they could save a ton of money as long as a Senator or something isn't running because they wouldn't have to hold primaries with an inevitable result.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

The Dems and Republicans really need to institute some kind of viability barrier for allowing canddiates on the ballot. This would mean they could save a ton of money as long as a Senator or something isn't running because they wouldn't have to hold primaries with an inevitable result.

The thing is that if the Democrats do that, the Republicans will yammer about 'subversion of democracy' and if the Republicans do it, the Democrats will complain.

[politicus]

Nah. Nor should he.

Care to explain why?

Any delegates not pledged to Obama will be barred.

Its blatantly undemocratic that they can do this and strange that so many Americans seem to think its allright.

Even putting aside the fact that holding joke primaries to renominate a sitting President is ridiculous and a waste of everyone's time and money, Judd didn't file a delegate slate or any of the other ncessary paperwork, and isn't eligible to receive any delegates.
 
Useless primaries are annoying - see: Obama 2012, Bush 2004, Clinton 1996, Bush 1992, etc, etc, etc... all the way back until Carter-Kennedy 1980, which is the last time there was an actual race.

The Dems and Republicans really need to institute some kind of viability barrier for allowing canddiates on the ballot. This would mean they could save a ton of money as long as a Senator or something isn't running because they wouldn't have to hold primaries with an inevitable result.

Allowing people to protest and have their dissent heard and registered in a relevant way is an important part of democracy, even if it costs some cash.

[mondale84]

Nah. Nor should he.

Care to explain why?

Any delegates not pledged to Obama will be barred.

Its blatantly undemocratic that they can do this and strange that so many Americans seem to think its allright.

Even putting aside the fact that holding joke primaries to renominate a sitting President is ridiculous and a waste of everyone's time and money, Judd didn't file a delegate slate or any of the other ncessary paperwork, and isn't eligible to receive any delegates.
 
Useless primaries are annoying - see: Obama 2012, Bush 2004, Clinton 1996, Bush 1992, etc, etc, etc... all the way back until Carter-Kennedy 1980, which is the last time there was an actual race.

The Dems and Republicans really need to institute some kind of viability barrier for allowing canddiates on the ballot. This would mean they could save a ton of money as long as a Senator or something isn't running because they wouldn't have to hold primaries with an inevitable result.

Allowing people to protest and have their dissent heard and registered in a relevant way is an important part of democracy, even if it costs some cash.

This is not a democracy, it's a political party.

[Bacon King]

The DNC has already disqualified Randall Terry

What was their reasoning?

IIRC he was ruled to not be a bona fide member of the Democratic Party (he's run as a Republican before).

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Judd is a joke, but under the rules he is qualified for delegates and should get one.

Democratic Party is free to change rules, but making post facto laws is bit of uncool.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

That's actually why I would strongly oppose denying the delegates to that guy in Oklahoma, who is clearly a Democrat unlike Terry. Judd is a bit of a different case and tricky and it wouldn't be too unreasonable for the DNC to pass a rule saying prisoners can't run or be eligible, but I don't think it'd be reasonable to simply deny him delegates due to being a joke candidate.

[Taft]

From what I understand, the big bar to Wolfe and Judd getting delegates is that they didn't file slates (IIRC, Rogers failed in this regard).  HOWEVER, it will be interesting to see what the Democratic state committees do...considering how catastrophically unpopular Obama is in a lot of areas, and considering that as often as not you've got a lot of local officials with no practical ambitions outside the state, it seems possible that a CD committee/convention (say, in southern WV or eastern KY) might appoint one or more delegates "not inclined" to vote for Obama.

Likewise, considering that a number of officials weren't willing to say that they voted for Obama in WV when the other guy was a felon...given a roll call, what are the odds that Joe Manchin or some other Superdelegates are inclined to cast protest votes (say, voting for Heath Shuler or another more "acceptable" Democrat)?

[Joe Republic]

Democratic Party is free to change rules, but making post facto laws is bit of uncool.

Both parties do that all the time.  Remember in 2008 when Michigan and Florida were initially stripped of all their delegates, then later they were given half, and then all of them were eventually reinstated at the convention?

Conventions are just for show now anyway.  They don't mean anything significant any more, except a temporary bump in the polls.

[Хahar 🤔]

Obviously Terry shouldn't get any delegates, but the other guy in Oklahoma should, seeing as that he's a real Democrat. The process is (at least theoretically) something more than an Obama renomination ceremony.

[politicus]

Nah. Nor should he.

Care to explain why?

Any delegates not pledged to Obama will be barred.

Its blatantly undemocratic that they can do this and strange that so many Americans seem to think its allright.

Even putting aside the fact that holding joke primaries to renominate a sitting President is ridiculous and a waste of everyone's time and money, Judd didn't file a delegate slate or any of the other ncessary paperwork, and isn't eligible to receive any delegates.
Useless primaries are annoying - see: Obama 2012, Bush 2004, Clinton 1996, Bush 1992, etc, etc, etc... all the way back until Carter-Kennedy 1980, which is the last time there was an actual race.

Allowing people to protest and have their dissent heard and registered in a relevant way is an important part of democracy, even if it costs some cash.

This is not a democracy, it's a political party.

Yes, the Democratic party...

[Eraserhead]

Nah. Nor should he.

Care to explain why?

Any delegates not pledged to Obama will be barred.

Its blatantly undemocratic that they can do this and strange that so many Americans seem to think its allright.

Even putting aside the fact that holding joke primaries to renominate a sitting President is ridiculous and a waste of everyone's time and money, Judd didn't file a delegate slate or any of the other ncessary paperwork, and isn't eligible to receive any delegates.
Useless primaries are annoying - see: Obama 2012, Bush 2004, Clinton 1996, Bush 1992, etc, etc, etc... all the way back until Carter-Kennedy 1980, which is the last time there was an actual race.

Allowing people to protest and have their dissent heard and registered in a relevant way is an important part of democracy, even if it costs some cash.

This is not a democracy, it's a political party.

Yes, the Democratic party...

Good one!