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Question: Which of the following American conflicts would you have supported intervening in with hindsight?
Revolutionary War   -37 (11.5%)
Quasi-War   -13 (4%)
War of 1812   -16 (5%)
Mexican-American War   -15 (4.7%)
American Civil War (as someone in the Union)   -36 (11.2%)
Spanish-American War   -10 (3.1%)
World War I   -17 (5.3%)
World War II   -45 (14%)
Korean War   -18 (5.6%)
Vietnam War   -5 (1.6%)
Operation Just Cause (Panama)   -7 (2.2%)
First Gulf War   -22 (6.9%)
Bosnian War   -16 (5%)
Kosovo War   -17 (5.3%)
Afghan War   -21 (6.5%)
Iraq War   -6 (1.9%)
Operation Unified Protector (Libya)   -20 (6.2%)
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Total Voters: 49

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« on: May 22, 2012, 10:37:06 am »
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This should be interesting. The 50,000 Indian Wars, short bombings (Eagle Claw, for instance) and US-backed coups/filibusters are not counted.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 10:53:55 am »
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In hindsight?  NOTA.  Since that wasn't an option in the poll, voted the first because it was the most justified outside of hindsight.
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 11:51:43 am »
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Civil War
World War II
Kuwait
Bosnia
Kosovo
Afghanistan
Libya
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 12:10:45 pm »
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Dunno if you want non-American votes, but anyway:

Revolutionary War
WW2
Gulf War/Kuwait
Libya
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 12:22:08 pm »
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I voted Civil War (Union), WWII, the Gulf War (1991), the Bosnia and Kosovo conflicts, and the Afghan War (although I would have only sent U.S. forces into Afghanistan with the specific objective of eliminating bin Laden and al-Qaeda, not for the open ended conflict with the Taliban they're engaged in over there).  

If I lived during the Revolutionary War, I'm not sure which side I would have supported--after all, a great many colonial Americans not only remained loyal to but actually fought for Britain.  Unlike slavery in the Civil War, there was no clear moral issue that gave one side superiority over the other (if anything, the British have the edge in this regard for their proclamation promising slaves freedom who ran away and joined them).  The patriots' bid for independence could (and still can) be viewed as either a treasonous rebellion or a legitimate struggle for freedom.

The Mexican War and the Iraq War are clearly the least morally defensible, with the Spanish-American perhaps not far behind.
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 03:13:38 pm »
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The first four, with the addition of WWII (only after Pearl Harbor). The Quasi War was a version of what we later went to war with Britain over in 1812.
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 03:58:05 pm »
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Why did you leave out the Barbary Wars?
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 04:22:57 pm »
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World War II.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 04:36:28 pm »
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World War I
World War II
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Kosovo
Afghanistan
Libya
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 04:38:04 pm »
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Revolutionary War
American Civil War (as someone in the Union)
World War I
World War II
First Gulf War
Bosnian War
Kosovo War
Afghan War
Operation Unified Protector (Libya)
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 05:36:44 pm »
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Revolutionary war, civil war, WWII.
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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 05:37:27 pm »
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Amusing to see the amount of votes for Libya. I didn't know we had that many Islamists on Atlas.
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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 05:51:12 pm »
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Quote from: Secretary of Internal Affairs 20RP12 on May 22, 2012, 05:36:44 pm
Revolutionary war, civil war, WWII.

Seconded.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 05:53:41 pm »
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Quote from: Lulu on May 22, 2012, 05:37:27 pm
Amusing to see the amount of votes for Libya. I didn't know we had that many Islamists on Atlas.

This. I could have sworn that Libya was the one war that both the left AND right opposed...
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 05:58:55 pm »
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Quote from: Secretary of Internal Affairs 20RP12 on May 22, 2012, 05:53:41 pm
Quote from: Lulu on May 22, 2012, 05:37:27 pm
Amusing to see the amount of votes for Libya. I didn't know we had that many Islamists on Atlas.

This. I could have sworn that Libya was the one war that both the left AND right opposed...
On the contrary, the left strongly supported the Libya intervention.
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2012, 06:05:28 pm »
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Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on May 22, 2012, 05:58:55 pm
Quote from: Secretary of Internal Affairs 20RP12 on May 22, 2012, 05:53:41 pm
Quote from: Lulu on May 22, 2012, 05:37:27 pm
Amusing to see the amount of votes for Libya. I didn't know we had that many Islamists on Atlas.

This. I could have sworn that Libya was the one war that both the left AND right opposed...
On the contrary, the left strongly supported the Libya intervention.

Except me, apparently. I didn't get the memo that we support oil wars + religious fundamentalist movements now.
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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2012, 06:06:06 pm »
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Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on May 22, 2012, 05:58:55 pm
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Quote from: Lulu on May 22, 2012, 05:37:27 pm
Amusing to see the amount of votes for Libya. I didn't know we had that many Islamists on Atlas.

This. I could have sworn that Libya was the one war that both the left AND right opposed...
On the contrary, the left strongly supported the Libya intervention.
I opposed it.
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2012, 06:25:27 pm »
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Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on May 22, 2012, 03:13:38 pm
The first four, with the addition of WWII (only after Pearl Harbor). The Quasi War was a version of what we later went to war with Britain over in 1812.
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2012, 06:51:31 pm »
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Quote from: Governor Napoleon on May 22, 2012, 06:06:06 pm
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Quote from: Lulu on May 22, 2012, 05:37:27 pm
Amusing to see the amount of votes for Libya. I didn't know we had that many Islamists on Atlas.

This. I could have sworn that Libya was the one war that both the left AND right opposed...
On the contrary, the left strongly supported the Libya intervention.
I opposed it.
Not all Leftist of course. Dennis Kucinich was against it as well.
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2012, 07:25:36 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2012, 07:34:17 pm »
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Revolutionary War       
Quasi-War       
War of 1812       
Mexican-American War       
American Civil War (as someone in the Union)       
Spanish-American War       
World War I       
World War II       
Korean War       
Operation Just Cause (Panama)       
First Gulf War          
Afghan War       
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2012, 07:52:22 pm »
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I oppose the mass slaughter of innocent and mostly un-armed protestors with fighter planes, so I of course supported the intervention in Libya.

Don't really understand the leftists (or anyone) supporting American intervention in WWI though.
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Quote from: Lulu on May 22, 2012, 05:37:27 pm
Amusing to see the amount of votes for Libya. I didn't know we had that many Islamists on Atlas.

Except the Libyan rebels weren't even close to being Islamists in most cases.
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Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on May 22, 2012, 03:13:38 pm
The first four, with the addition of WWII (only after Pearl Harbor). The Quasi War was a version of what we later went to war with Britain over in 1812.

What's your justification for the Mexican-American War?
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2012, 10:52:38 pm »
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lol at anyone who said War of 1812. Thanks for supporting a war of aggression against my country.
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