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« on: September 05, 2012, 03:54:59 PM »

not todd akin its another congressman
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/gop-congressman-there-are-very-few-pregnancies-fr
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2012, 04:11:29 PM »

It's amazing how he uses facts and others do not.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 02:01:45 AM »

It's amazing how he uses facts and others do not.

Bartlett's talking proportions of abortions, not proportions of rapes, so it's easier for what he's saying to make some degree of sense.
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2012, 02:04:09 AM »

It's amazing how he uses facts and others do not.

Bartlett's talking proportions of abortions, not proportions of rapes, so it's easier for what he's saying to make some degree of sense.

Yeah. We already know Bartlett is a pretty reasonable guy. Everything he's saying is essentially true. The only way to make him look like Todd Akin is to grossly misquote him.

That being said, his impending defeat will probably a great loss to Congress, an institution relatively short of reasonably people like Bartlett.
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2012, 04:27:59 PM »

I guess what he's saying is literally true, but it's a fairly odd and misleading use of statistics. Obviously pregnancies from rape aren't a huge fraction of the number of total pregnancies each year. It wouldn't make any sense for them to be. Same with the percentage of total abortions. Still, 20,000 a year is a pretty large number, so you probably shouldn't say there are "very few" pregnancies from rape.
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2012, 05:18:11 PM »

I guess what he's saying is literally true, but it's a fairly odd and misleading use of statistics. Obviously pregnancies from rape aren't a huge fraction of the number of total pregnancies each year. It wouldn't make any sense for them to be. Same with the percentage of total abortions. Still, 20,000 a year is a pretty large number, so you probably shouldn't say there are "very few" pregnancies from rape.

IIRC, it was pretty warranted. It seems like he was defending himself from people who didn't like that he supported abortions in the case of rape, incest, and etc. and he was making the case that he was still broadly pro-life because those abortions are so far.
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2012, 05:29:31 PM »

I guess what he's saying is literally true, but it's a fairly odd and misleading use of statistics. Obviously pregnancies from rape aren't a huge fraction of the number of total pregnancies each year. It wouldn't make any sense for them to be. Same with the percentage of total abortions. Still, 20,000 a year is a pretty large number, so you probably shouldn't say there are "very few" pregnancies from rape.

IIRC, it was pretty warranted. It seems like he was defending himself from people who didn't like that he supported abortions in the case of rape, incest, and etc. and he was making the case that he was still broadly pro-life because those abortions are so far.

That was my impression too. Bartlett said something ridiculous this week, but this wasn't it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2012, 04:10:48 AM »

The way he worded it - and got pinned unfairly into a corner as a result, apparently - was fairly stupid. I guess that's old age showing. Tongue
But he's not doing something Akinic in any way or form here.
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