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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2012, 04:35:28 PM »

Great timeline! Looking forward to the next update!
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« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2012, 09:04:54 PM »
« Edited: June 04, 2012, 09:08:54 PM by Liberalrocks »

Great timeline, I am a staunch Clinton supporter but two states I will take issue with are Washington and Maryland even with a more friendly media and less Obama winds, I still think he would have taken those two albeit narrowly so the delegate count would be a wash. The demographics in those states overwhelmingly favored him. I would have given Clinton stronger delegate margins out of the super tuesday states in a rewrite to compensate.

Delaware and Maine could definitely be Clinton states and Minnesota was expected to be tight before the real vote so those are very believable as our some upcoming potential Clinton wins....
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2012, 08:52:54 PM »

Feb 19th Results

Obama wins Hawaii!


Obama 69.7%      22 Delegates
Clinton 29.6%      7 Delegates




Clinton wins Wisconsin!


Clinton 53.6%      51 Delegates
Obama 45.2%      41 Delegates




March 4th Results

Chris Matthews: Welcome to the big night we've been waiting for. Vermont, Rhode Island Ohio and Texas are voting tonight and if Clinton wins even one of the big ones it's a good night for her. Polls show Clinton with a commanding lead in Ohio but in Texas the gap has been closing dramatically over the past weeks but we'll have to see if that's the case.

Obama wins Vermont!



Obama 56.7%      13 Delegates
Clinton 42.4%      10 Delegates




Clinton wins Rhode Island!


Clinton 62.7%      21 Delegates
Obama 35.9%      11 Delegates




Clinton wins Ohio!


Clinton 58.5%      89 Delegates
Obama 40.6%      72 Delegates




Texas to close to call
21%in
Clinton 51.8%
Obama 47.9%


Texas and more results next!
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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2012, 10:29:35 PM »

Stick a fork in him, Hilldawg!
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2012, 02:36:47 AM »

Sorry for no update recently, it's grad week for me and i'll be busy...i'll try to update this TL as soon as i can!
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« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2012, 12:02:27 PM »

Sorry for no update recently, it's grad week for me and i'll be busy...i'll try to update this TL as soon as i can!

I understand completely Wink
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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2012, 11:35:10 PM »

Clinton wins Texas!


Clinton 57.4%      126 Delegates
Obama   41.4%      102 Delegates





"We’re going on, we’re going strong, and we’re going all the way"

March 4th

Clinton wins Wyoming Caucas!



Clinton 60.1%      11 Delegates
Obama 39.3%      7 Delegates




March 11th

Clinton wins Mississippi!


Clinton 50.7%      22 Delegates
Obama 47.8%      18 Delegates






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« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2012, 07:55:56 PM »

Clinton wins Pennsylvania!


Clinton 61.6%      117 Delegates
Obama 38.1%      64 Delegates




Clinton wins the Democratic Nomination!!!

"Thanks to all of you who supported me, but we are only just getting started. Next stop the White House!!"

Final Results


Hillary Clinton 55.4%
Barack Obama 40.9%
John Edwards 2.1%
Other 1.6%



Clinton vs Mccain Poll Map



50%-44%
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« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2012, 04:35:22 PM »

Cool!
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« Reply #34 on: June 18, 2012, 11:28:34 PM »

Clinton leads Mccain in Summer polling
   Clinton                    Mccain
    49%                        44%

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Analysis:  Hillary Clinton seems to be gaining back the southern democrats that voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. Clinton is leading in our polling by 9 points (50-41) in Arkansas and is 1 point behind in Kentucky (47-46) and Tennessee (48-47). even being only 8 points behind in Oklahoma (47-39) and 4 in Louisiana (49-45). The black vote is slowly snuggling up towards Clinton but not in record numbers (70-20). Clinton is dominating with the Hispanic vote like she did in the primaries (66-27). Clinton's VP picks could be Barack Obama even though there might be some hard feeling towards themselves or it could be someone like Bill Richardson, Joe Biden, Evan Bayh, or Tim Kaine. On the Republican side it could be Sam Brownback, Joe Lieberman, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney or Mark Sanford.



Conventions Next!



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« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2012, 07:52:48 AM »

Looking forward to the update!
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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2012, 08:47:45 AM »

I'm curious about the running mates.

I would also imagine that President Hillary Clinton would not have waited until after the midterms if she had a good idea where Osama Bin Lade could be found. Obviously, waiting to be certain was a good idea for President Obama. But I'm suspicious enough of the Clintons to think she would have been more motivated by the political rewards in a situation that we now know would have been quite successful.

Though of course I could be horribly horribly wrong on this.
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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2012, 10:46:29 AM »

I'm curious about the running mates.

I would also imagine that President Hillary Clinton would not have waited until after the midterms if she had a good idea where Osama Bin Lade could be found. Obviously, waiting to be certain was a good idea for President Obama. But I'm suspicious enough of the Clintons to think she would have been more motivated by the political rewards in a situation that we now know would have been quite successful.

Though of course I could be horribly horribly wrong on this.

Maybe she'd try and distance herself from Bill and be aggressive in seeking out Bin Laden
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« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2012, 10:04:53 PM »
« Edited: June 26, 2012, 04:42:02 PM by LiberalJunkie99 »

Clinton picks Senator Evan Bayh!





Senator Clinton at DNC

"You never gave in. You never gave up. And together we made history. Thank you so much. God bless America and Godspeed to you all."

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Analysis: Mccain is losing lots of the Moderates and even some conservatives after the Bayh pick. Tennessee and up is pure Clinton country or at least tossup at this point. Clinton now leads Whites by 6 points and Hispanics by 71-23 and African Americans by 84-13

Clinton 53%
Mccain 41%

Colorado
Clinton 51% +5%
Mccain 43% -3%

Kentucky
Clinton 50% +4%
Mccain 45% -2%

Tennessee
Clinton 49% +2%
Mccain 45% -3%

Indiana
Clinton 50% +6%
Mccain 45% -6%

Louisiana
Mccain 48% -1%
Clinton 45% -/+0%
 
Virginia
Clinton 50% +2%
Mccain 46% -2%

North Carolina
Mccain 48% -2%
Clinton 45% +2%

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« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2012, 11:46:15 PM »

Great so far, though I think McCain would have at least a toss-up for CO and NV; Obama was really the only democrat they'd go for this time around.  Anyway, more please!  Wink
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« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2012, 01:29:14 AM »

Great so far, though I think McCain would have at least a toss-up for CO and NV; Obama was really the only democrat they'd go for this time around.  Anyway, more please!  Wink

The DNC was in Colorado so I gave it an edge to Clinton and Hispanics voted for Clinton over Obama in the primaries even real life and would help her with Nevada.
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« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2012, 03:24:06 PM »

Great so far, though I think McCain would have at least a toss-up for CO and NV; Obama was really the only democrat they'd go for this time around.  Anyway, more please!  Wink

The DNC was in Colorado so I gave it an edge to Clinton and Hispanics voted for Clinton over Obama in the primaries even real life and would help her with Nevada.

Understood.  Still, more please Wink
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« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2012, 03:25:32 PM »

Are there any specific areas where McCain is polling stronger than in real life?
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« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2012, 03:28:04 PM »

Are there any specific areas where McCain is polling stronger than in real life?

Likely the deep south and blacks.
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« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2012, 03:41:31 PM »

Are there any specific areas where McCain is polling stronger than in real life?

Illinois, Hawaii and Vermont at the moment
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« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2012, 05:11:25 PM »

Mccain picks Governor Sarah Palin!!



Sarah Palin at RNC



John Mccain at RNC


"Stand up to defend our country from its enemies. Stand up for each other, for beautiful, blessed, bountiful America.
Thank you, and God bless you, and God bless America."

Post convention Map and Poll



Analysis: John Mccain's pick of Sarah Palin was a big shocker and very big move for the campaign. It moved all the reliable states that were heading towards voting for Clinton to now looking 100% safe for Mccain since picking the strong conservative Palin getting much of the Reagan Democrats back in his column. Whites have went back to mccain by 8 points now in our latest poll with African Americans not moving at all 82-15 for Clinton and Hispanics making a move toward Mccain but still voting for Clinton 64-32.

Mccain 48%
Clinton 47%

Colorado
Clinton 48% -3%
Mccain 48% +5%

Kentucky
Mccain 53% +8%
Clinton 43% -7%

Tennessee
Mccain 55% +10%
Clinton 41% -8%

Indiana
Mccain 48% +3%
Clinton 46% -4%

Louisiana
Mccain 51% +3%
Clinton 39% -6%

Virginia
Mccain 51% +5%
Clinton 44% -6%

North Carolina
Mccain 51% +3%
Clinton 44% -1%

Minnesota
Clinton 48% -5%
Mccain 46% +%
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« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2012, 08:36:34 PM »

Cool!  Wink
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« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2012, 08:37:42 PM »

Are there any specific areas where McCain is polling stronger than in real life?

Illinois, Hawaii and Vermont at the moment

So nothing he can win. Tongue
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« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2012, 08:41:04 PM »


Hawaii maybe, though it would be tough to win Illinois (though possible) ITTL
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« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2012, 03:15:33 PM »

What's going on with the updates?

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