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« Reply #425 on: December 03, 2014, 01:55:03 pm »
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The story of Lega Nord in Emilia-Romagna is that they held onto their 2010 vote when Forza Italia, and to a lesser extent PD, suffered massively from abstentions. Nationally, the Lega's current polling performance is not unprecedented at mid-term.

Also consider that the other centre-right and right-wing parties are now polling less than 20% combined; and that, furthermore, Lega Nord is the closest approximation to Generic Anti-Foreigner Party, albeit in a country where lots of other parties are now, also, leery of the EU.
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« Reply #426 on: December 16, 2014, 05:18:29 pm »
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Hey, so lots of stuff has been happening in the past month! Apart the election news that have been mentioned in this thread, you should know that:
- Napolitano announced he will be resigning early next year, so speculations on who the next President will be are running loose.
- Renzi's "Jobs Act" passed, after some slight watering-down as a compromise with the PD's left-wing. Still, most of the law's actual content will be shaped by the government's decrees, so stay tuned to see what this law actually means.
- There was a HUGE (and I mean, by Italian standards Shocked) Mafia scandal in Rome recently. Basically a clique of criminals close to former far-right terrorists was effectively running the city's immigrant-welcoming services and various other activities, with the city council's support. Fortunately, the mayor Ignazio Marino is one of the few guys who genuinely had nothing to do with all this mess, so he still has a mandate to try and clean it up.
- Renzi's popularity is finally starting to falter, now his approvals and disapprovals are about even in most polls. Still he remains most popular party leader.
- Grillo effectively stepped down from the M5S leadership (right after expelling two more "dissidents"). He appointed a "board" of five people, chosen among his most vehement supporters, to take care of everything. M5S's collapse might be close...
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« Reply #427 on: December 16, 2014, 05:33:05 pm »
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Renzi 4 Prez...so we can have new government elections by the end of 2015. Cheesy
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« Reply #428 on: December 16, 2014, 05:35:38 pm »
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Renzi 4 Prez...so we can have new government elections by the end of 2015. Cheesy

Tbf, it would be quite hilarious if we went from a 90-year-old President to a 40-year-old one overnight. Tongue
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« Reply #429 on: December 16, 2014, 06:12:33 pm »
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I'm going to be in Florence this May, so hopefully I'll see Emperor...President...PM...Renzi around! Grin
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« Reply #430 on: December 16, 2014, 06:20:03 pm »
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I'm going to be in Florence this May, so hopefully I'll see Emperor...President...PM...Renzi around! Grin

Well, he's probably staying in Rome these days... Tongue Though I (with Hash and Zanas) went to Florence back when he was Mayor. Cheesy
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« Reply #431 on: December 16, 2014, 06:22:52 pm »
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I'm going to be in Florence this May, so hopefully I'll see Emperor...President...PM...Renzi around! Grin

Well, he's probably staying in Rome these days... Tongue Though I (with Hash and Zanas) went to Florence back when he was Mayor. Cheesy

Oh yeah, but I thought it was kind of amusing to share! Wink

It'll be my goal to find someone politically important to meet - when I was in Berlin a while ago, I drove past the CDU headquarters, but alas no chance to stop.
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« Reply #432 on: December 16, 2014, 07:05:59 pm »
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Well, I stopped in the PdL Tuscany HQs (yes, they exist there!) in 2012 because the father of two of my friends was an MP at the time. Smiley  You can obviously find regional party offices in Florence.
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« Reply #433 on: December 16, 2014, 07:47:50 pm »
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Well, I stopped in the PdL Tuscany HQs (yes, they exist there!) in 2012 because the father of two of my friends was an MP at the time. Smiley  You can obviously find regional party offices in Florence.

That a very doable idea - thanks for the advice. Wink And I suppose PdL has to make an appearance at least!
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« Reply #434 on: December 21, 2014, 05:32:11 am »
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New Demos poll:



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Distribution of Lega Nord and We with Salvini's vote.



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Salvini launched a new party, "We With Salvini" (Noi Con Salvini) that is a kind of Lega of the Centre-South.

Napolitano will probably announce his resignation in the year-end speech.
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« Reply #435 on: December 21, 2014, 05:34:45 am »
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Logo of "Noi con Salvini".
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« Reply #436 on: December 21, 2014, 06:03:04 am »
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Oh Jesus Christ, Salvini is going to create a FP equivalent in Italy...

The worst thing is, had Grillo been less of a moron, he could have prevented that and helped channel protest votes toward a credible left-wing alternative. Instead M5S will probably collapse within the next few months...
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« Reply #437 on: December 21, 2014, 06:23:17 am »
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Veneto Poll:

Luca Zaia (incumbent, CD) 50%
Alessandra Moretti (CS) 30%
M5S Candidate 15%
Others 5%
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« Reply #438 on: December 21, 2014, 01:43:01 pm »
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For the time being at least things look weirdly like how they were 'supposed' to be after Mani pulite, before Forza Italia turned up.
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« Reply #439 on: December 21, 2014, 05:22:07 pm »
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For the time being at least things look weirdly like how they were 'supposed' to be after Mani pulite, before Forza Italia turned up.

Well, if you consider the PD to be the PCI/PDS' heir in any meaningful sense, then yeah. Tongue
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« Reply #440 on: December 21, 2014, 10:55:11 pm »
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Great to see Meloni with such a positive rating. Speaking of those ratings, I thought Vendola had stepped aside...

This Salvini guy is very dangerous. If Lega Nord seriously surpasses FI in the polls, Berlusconi surely has to realize it's time for him to go.
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« Reply #441 on: Today at 01:37:41 am »
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For the time being at least things look weirdly like how they were 'supposed' to be after Mani pulite, before Forza Italia turned up.

Well, if you consider the PD to be the PCI/PDS' heir in any meaningful sense, then yeah. Tongue

This is probably a naive question, but is there any chance of PD purging itself of the non-SD elements to become a bit more ideologically coherent?
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« Reply #442 on: Today at 08:58:30 am »
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For the time being at least things look weirdly like how they were 'supposed' to be after Mani pulite, before Forza Italia turned up.

Well, if you consider the PD to be the PCI/PDS' heir in any meaningful sense, then yeah. Tongue

This is probably a naive question, but is there any chance of PD purging itself of the non-SD elements to become a bit more ideologically coherent?

That's not really the direction it's going for right now. Actually, Renzi has completely blurred the ideological picture inside the PD: the main divide is between the Renzi camp, the "old guard" (mostly old PDS stalwarts, but also many ex-DC like Bindi), and the "new left" faction led by Civati (but it's rumored that he's about to leave and found a new party).
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HashCAN     americans saw the EP elections and people cringing at Europeans being morons and electing Nazis; so they massively said "NO" and decided to prove that they're still bigger morons



"A reformist is someone who realizes that, when you bang your head on a wall, it's the head that breaks rather than the wall."

Peppino, from the movie Baaria
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