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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #750 on: September 17, 2014, 11:17:03 AM »

Ipsos-MORI reported as 51/49 to No.
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« Reply #751 on: September 17, 2014, 12:06:23 PM »

It's amazing how every poll shows such a narrow No lead. You'd expect MoE would have a fluke Yes lead or No at 55 or something.
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« Reply #752 on: September 17, 2014, 12:21:10 PM »

I have a very important question that just dawned on me:

How many No True Scotsman jokes have been made so far?
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« Reply #753 on: September 17, 2014, 12:22:13 PM »

Wait till after the vote.
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« Reply #754 on: September 17, 2014, 12:34:06 PM »

It's amazing how every poll shows such a narrow No lead. You'd expect MoE would have a fluke Yes lead or No at 55 or something.

I found that a bit weird too. 4/5 polls this week have shown the exact same result, 52-48, while the fifth had 51-49. Particularly considering that the polls used to diverge a lot for this election.

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« Reply #755 on: September 17, 2014, 12:38:01 PM »

It's amazing how every poll shows such a narrow No lead. You'd expect MoE would have a fluke Yes lead or No at 55 or something.

I found that a bit weird too. 4/5 polls this week have shown the exact same result, 52-48, while the fifth had 51-49. Particularly considering that the polls used to diverge a lot for this election.



They have converged. This campaign isn't like a 50/50 campaign because it hasn't been 50/50 since day one. Yes were behind. So you've only started to see occasional Yes leads/drawing equal as it's narrowed in the past few weeks.
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« Reply #756 on: September 17, 2014, 12:44:07 PM »

It's amazing how every poll shows such a narrow No lead. You'd expect MoE would have a fluke Yes lead or No at 55 or something.

At this point all the companies I'm sure are aware that a Yes lead in their poll would be likely embarrassing Tongue
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« Reply #757 on: September 17, 2014, 12:47:15 PM »
« Edited: September 17, 2014, 04:39:16 PM by Sibboleth »

Ipsos-MORI figures including the don't knows: Yes 47, No 49

We're due a YouGov in a few hours and a final MORI tomorrow morning, apparently.

Edit: fixed typo, lol
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« Reply #758 on: September 17, 2014, 01:00:55 PM »

Does anyone know of any good live streams with which to follow the vote online?
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« Reply #759 on: September 17, 2014, 01:29:50 PM »

Is there any worry about potential "bad behavior" from some nationalists if the vote fails?
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« Reply #760 on: September 17, 2014, 01:33:57 PM »

Is there any worry about potential "bad behavior" from some nationalists if the vote fails?

Only by those that think we are guilty of bad behaviour. And by bad i mean; heckling and egg throwing.
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« Reply #761 on: September 17, 2014, 03:37:22 PM »

Ipsos-MORI figures including the don't knows: Yes 49, No 47

Other way round: No still ahead.

(Details here.)
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« Reply #762 on: September 17, 2014, 04:01:09 PM »

*SCOTTISH VOTE: 47% YES, 53% NO IN SURVATION POLL
*SCOTTISH VOTE: 48% YES, 52% NO IN YOUGOV POLL
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« Reply #763 on: September 17, 2014, 04:01:46 PM »

Sorry if I asked this already.  But what time will the polls close? And will there be exit polling allowed?
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« Reply #764 on: September 17, 2014, 04:04:09 PM »

So today's Yes shares are 47, 48 and 49 - exactly the same average as yesterday's. Quite amazing, really.

Sorry if I asked this already.  But what time will the polls close? And will there be exit polling allowed?

10PM over here, 3AM (I think) over there. No exit polling.
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« Reply #765 on: September 17, 2014, 04:04:40 PM »

*SCOTTISH VOTE: 47% YES, 53% NO IN SURVATION POLL
*SCOTTISH VOTE: 48% YES, 52% NO IN YOUGOV POLL


The Survation one was N48-Y43 including undecideds.  The YouGov one had a large sample size (over 3000); I haven't seen their figures with undecideds included.
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« Reply #766 on: September 17, 2014, 04:12:42 PM »

So I heard earlier today that the Better Together campaign actually trumpeted Bill Clinton's statement in favor of No.

Regardless of how you feel on the matter of independence, I think everyone can agree that that's just shockingly pathetic by the No camp.
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« Reply #767 on: September 17, 2014, 04:21:01 PM »

So I heard earlier today that the Better Together campaign actually trumpeted Bill Clinton's statement in favor of No.

Regardless of how you feel on the matter of independence, I think everyone can agree that that's just shockingly pathetic by the No camp.

The No campaign has been incredibly pathetic generally. If the No vote does come out ahead, as seems likely, I get the sense that it'll have been largely in spite of Better Together.
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« Reply #768 on: September 17, 2014, 04:31:25 PM »

Remarkable levels of activity today. I haven't seen anything even close to the level of political activity that's happening today. Almost every conversation I hear in the street today is about independence.

So today's Yes shares are 47, 48 and 49 - exactly the same average as yesterday's. Quite amazing, really.

Sorry if I asked this already.  But what time will the polls close? And will there be exit polling allowed?

10PM over here, 3AM (I think) over there. No exit polling.

It's 5PM Eastern Time, so you won't even have to have a late night in the US.
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« Reply #769 on: September 17, 2014, 04:36:58 PM »

So I heard earlier today that the Better Together campaign actually trumpeted Bill Clinton's statement in favor of No.

Regardless of how you feel on the matter of independence, I think everyone can agree that that's just shockingly pathetic by the No camp.

The No campaign has been incredibly pathetic generally. If the No vote does come out ahead, as seems likely, I get the sense that it'll have been largely in spite of Better Together.

Am I right in saying they'd have been better not running a campaign at all? From the Orange Order to the 3 party leaders stepping into Scotland for the first time in years, it's all been a bit of a muppet show.
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« Reply #770 on: September 17, 2014, 04:45:08 PM »

I just find it funny that this referendum has Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, David, David Cameron, and George Galloway all on the same side.
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« Reply #771 on: September 17, 2014, 05:29:18 PM »

Remarkable levels of activity today. I haven't seen anything even close to the level of political activity that's happening today. Almost every conversation I hear in the street today is about independence.

So today's Yes shares are 47, 48 and 49 - exactly the same average as yesterday's. Quite amazing, really.

Sorry if I asked this already.  But what time will the polls close? And will there be exit polling allowed?

10PM over here, 3AM (I think) over there. No exit polling.

It's 5PM Eastern Time, so you won't even have to have a late night in the US.

Oops, brain fart. Tongue
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« Reply #772 on: September 17, 2014, 05:50:23 PM »

Does anyone know of any good live streams with which to follow the vote online?

Try the BBC webcast.
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« Reply #773 on: September 17, 2014, 06:14:04 PM »

Some good covers on tomorrows newspapers

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-scotland-29233956
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« Reply #774 on: September 17, 2014, 06:14:12 PM »
« Edited: September 17, 2014, 06:24:24 PM by politicus »


Nah, they chose not to use the 700 year anniversary as the date.

Of course they did (ab)use it.



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