Scottish Independence Referendum - 18 September 2014

[Tender Branson]

Another [small] game changer ?

https://twitter.com/andy_murray/status/512392618077323264

[solarstorm]

I've got a question:

One person from Britain is called a Briton.
If you refer to the whole nation you say "the British".

What about Scotland?
One person is a Scot.
But what do you call the whole nation?
The Scottish? The Scots? The Scotch?

[Middle-aged Europe]

It occurred to me, if this is going to pass "The Doctor" in Doctor Who is going to be played by a foreigner henceforth...

[MaxQue]

I've got a question:

One person from Britain is called a Briton.
If you refer to the whole nation you say "the British".

What about Scotland?
One person is a Scot.
But what do you call the whole nation?
The Scottish? The Scots? The Scotch?

Scottish. Scots is the old language. Scotch is alcohol.

[MaxQue]

Another [small] game changer ?

https://twitter.com/andy_murray/status/512392618077323264

Or rather a set changer?

[politicus]

I've got a question:

One person from Britain is called a Briton.
If you refer to the whole nation you say "the British".

What about Scotland?
One person is a Scot.
But what do you call the whole nation?
The Scottish? The Scots? The Scotch?

Scottish. Scots is the old language. Scotch is alcohol.

You could use the Scots, its just a little old fashioned. Think Mary Queen of Scots, Elizabeth would likely also become Queen of Scots if they become independent.

[solarstorm]

Thanks, MaxQue and politicus.
According to the Oxford dictionary, Scotch can also refer to the Scottish people, but it seems to be old-fashioned.
So, "the Scottish" is the common term, right?

[MaxQue]

Thanks, MaxQue and politicus.
According to the Oxford dictionary, Scotch can also refer to the Scottish people, but it seems to be old-fashioned.
So, "the Scottish" is the common term, right?

Yes.

[Tender Branson]

Somehow I'd like to see it end up this way:

http://www.divxstage.to/video/5981ad909a9a2

Start at minute 11 & 15 seconds.

[swl]

According to the Oxford dictionary, Scotch can also refer to the Scottish people, but it seems to be old-fashioned.

Many people in Scotland consider this term offensive now, at least that's my experience.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

The Scots

[politicus]

Secretary of state for Scotland and MP for Orkney and Shetland Alistair Carmichael (LibDem) says that Shetland could stay with the UK and become either a crown dependency a la Isle of Man or an autonomous country within the realm as the Faroes are within the Danish realm if there is a big No in Shetland and a narrow Yes in Scotland as a whole. Their MSP Tavish Scott also says there will have to be negotiations if Scotland votes Yes and Shetland votes No and one of the options in crown dependency status.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/17/shetland-may-reconsider-place-scotland-yes-vote-alistair-carmichael

I have been sceptical about this, but this gives it a lot more weight. And its a big chunk of the Scottish oil (60% if I remember correctly), thats within Shetland waters.

[afleitch]

Scottish people is fine. The Scots is fine. Scotch is a no no.

I have been sceptical about this, but this gives it a lot more weight. And its a big chunk of the Scottish oil (60% if I remember correctly), thats within Shetland waters.

The Orcadians and Zetlanders may vote no to independence. That is not the same as a 'no' to Scotland or a 'yes' to the UK. It's politically cheeky to infer such things.

[Hifly]

Just say 'the Scots'.

[politicus]

Scottish people is fine. The Scots is fine. Scotch is a no no.

I have been sceptical about this, but this gives it a lot more weight. And its a big chunk of the Scottish oil (60% if I remember correctly), that's within Shetland waters.

The Orcadians and Zetlanders may vote no to independence. That is not the same as a 'no' to Scotland or a 'yes' to the UK. It's politically cheeky to infer such things.

Agreed, but it seems Carmichael and Scott will try it anyway.

SNP has promised increased control over local affairs to Scotland's island communities, but they have been rather vague about it, so maybe its also a bargaining chip.

Personally I think Shetland and Orkney autonomy within Scotland would be much more desirable.

[Diouf]

538 did make this rough guide: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/a-rough-guide-to-watching-the-scottish-independence-vote/

At the bottom there is a table with estimated reporting time, SNP lean in 2011, and percentage of electorate for each of the 32 local councils which will declare results.

[Gass3268]

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[Franzl]

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Translation: The UK does what we want and doesn't ask inconvenient questions.

[Keystone Phil]

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Opposition to Scottish independence just became a prerequisite in the 2016 GOP Presidential primary.

[Middle-aged Europe]

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51st state

[Eraserhead]

Obama has the worst initials ever.

[Platypus]

Why is the Obama's dog tweeting about Scottish independence?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Final poll of the campaign - Ipsos-MORI - says No 53, Yes 47.

[bore]

Just voted. There is going to be enormous turn out. There was a very steady stream of people at 2 o clock, so I can only imagine what it will be like at 6 or 7.

[Tender Branson]

Bugs Bunny votes "Yes":