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Tender Branson
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« Reply #850 on: September 18, 2014, 12:47:56 PM »

Yeah, it's ridiculous that there are still countries that don't hold elections on Sundays. This is so obviously preferable in every way.

Unless you live in the Western Isles and want to observe the Sabbath.

The religious zeals can vote absentee.
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« Reply #851 on: September 18, 2014, 01:00:49 PM »

Rural polling districts can be very small and if we're talking way out in the sticks there's a tendency to vote early, so it isn't implausible. Remember that this isn't an election.
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« Reply #852 on: September 18, 2014, 01:04:01 PM »

SNP has promised increased control over local affairs to Scotland's island communities, but they have been rather vague about it, so maybe its also a bargaining chip.

It also goes against their centralising nature. But we'll speculate more (if necessary) tomorrow.
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« Reply #853 on: September 18, 2014, 01:04:10 PM »

Twitter rumours that some polling stations are closing early due to 100% turnout. Yikes.

What about dead people? Are they immediately cleared from the rolls, or are the precincts in question small enough that no voter has died recently?

The precincts are relatively small, yeah: there's an average of 800 voters per polling station.
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« Reply #854 on: September 18, 2014, 01:07:45 PM »

I wouldn't really rule out a Yes-win.

People often lie to pollsters when it comes to stuff like this and there's a good chunk of undecideds which could swing it to Yes.

Given the general tone and tenor of the campaign, my strong suspicion would be that if people are lying to the pollsters then it's much more likely to be in the other direction. Saying that, I would agree that nothing can be safely ruled out: the polling companies have never handled an electoral event like this before and could easily have got things very wrong (and if a poll is wrong then there's no telling how so or in what way).
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« Reply #855 on: September 18, 2014, 01:16:12 PM »


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixville_Notch,_New_Hampshire
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« Reply #856 on: September 18, 2014, 01:51:28 PM »

Twitter rumours that some polling stations are closing early due to 100% turnout. Yikes.

Nope:

"Despite some rumours on Twitter, Severin Carrell has confirmed with Falkirk council that it is “simply not true” polling stations closed early because 100% of their local voters turned up.

All polling stations will be open until 10pm BST. You’ve still got plenty of time if you haven’t yet voted."
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« Reply #857 on: September 18, 2014, 01:52:04 PM »

Voted. Had to wait in a line. Never had to do that in the past twelve years.
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« Reply #858 on: September 18, 2014, 01:53:35 PM »

Twitter rumours that some polling stations are closing early due to 100% turnout. Yikes.

Nope:

"Despite some rumours on Twitter, Severin Carrell has confirmed with Falkirk council that it is “simply not true” polling stations closed early because 100% of their local voters turned up.

All polling stations will be open until 10pm BST. You’ve still got plenty of time if you haven’t yet voted."

Yes indeed, which is why I posted a few minutes later to that effect.
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« Reply #859 on: September 18, 2014, 02:59:55 PM »

Voted. Had to wait in a line. Never had to do that in the past twelve years.

And how did you vote- I'm guessing yes?
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« Reply #860 on: September 18, 2014, 03:03:00 PM »

Voted. Had to wait in a line. Never had to do that in the past twelve years.

And how did you vote- I'm guessing yes?

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« Reply #861 on: September 18, 2014, 03:06:17 PM »


haha.  Even as I posted it I knew someone would bring up Dixville Notch, a place, by the way, that would very likely seem like a foreign concept to most Americans. 
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« Reply #862 on: September 18, 2014, 03:08:34 PM »

Voted. Had to wait in a line. Never had to do that in the past twelve years.

And how did you vote- I'm guessing yes?

As I recall afleitch was planning to vote No after being swayed by BRTD's arguments.
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« Reply #863 on: September 18, 2014, 11:23:54 PM »

Now that about 55% of Scotland has voted to remain part of the UK, what impact will this result have on next year's Scottish parliamentary elections?  Will the SNP be adversely impacted by it, or is it likely to have no significant effect? 
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« Reply #864 on: September 18, 2014, 11:26:52 PM »
« Edited: September 18, 2014, 11:29:28 PM by ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ »

Now that about 55% of Scotland has voted to remain part of the UK, what impact will this result have on next year's Scottish parliamentary elections?  Will the SNP be adversely impacted by it, or is it likely to have no significant effect?  

I could see the SNP using the argument that the relatively strong showing got promises of new devolutions and powers. I wonder if there's any chance they'd get enough powers that the UK could be considered a federal state instead of a unitary state. LOL that a unitary state has 4 "countries".
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« Reply #865 on: September 18, 2014, 11:45:05 PM »

That's an impressive display of ignorance jfern.
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« Reply #866 on: September 18, 2014, 11:46:01 PM »

As for electoral implications... 1) fyck knows at this point, 2) least important thing currently
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« Reply #867 on: September 19, 2014, 03:33:36 PM »

I woke up at 4am to go to work and watched the results for 25 minutes.

A number of declarations came through while I was watching. The total aggregate vote started at around 49.7 to 50.3 and ended at 45.4 to 55.6 by the time I'd switched off so the direction of travel was clear there and then.

An exciting 25 minute's viewing overall Cheesy
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« Reply #868 on: September 19, 2014, 04:25:01 PM »

Why did Dundee vote so differently than the rest of the country? Any explanations from someone who knows the city well?
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« Reply #869 on: September 19, 2014, 04:31:15 PM »

Final map:

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« Reply #870 on: September 20, 2014, 09:26:27 AM »

Where exactly do the SNP go from here?

The biggest loser in all this though is Ed Milliband. Devolution and federalism is a general election issue now.
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« Reply #871 on: September 20, 2014, 10:21:16 AM »

The biggest loser in all this though is Ed Milliband.

Really, dude? This is probably the exact same thing people would say if Yes had won (and the rationale in that case would make only marginally more sense).
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« Reply #872 on: September 20, 2014, 10:26:27 AM »

The biggest loser in all this though is Ed Miliband.

Really, dude? This is probably the exact same thing people would say if Yes had won (and the rationale in that case would make only marginally more sense).

The Scottish Yes is actually genuinely good news for Ed Miliband.
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« Reply #873 on: September 20, 2014, 10:37:14 AM »

Another interesting fact:

Even if there were 100% turnout (all 4.2 Mio. people voting), the "Yes"-side would have needed 80% among those who didn't vote Thursday just to break even and make it a 50-50 race ...
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« Reply #874 on: September 20, 2014, 10:46:48 AM »

Another interesting fact:

Even if there were 100% turnout (all 4.2 Mio. people voting), the "Yes"-side would have needed 80% among those who didn't vote Thursday just to break even and make it a 50-50 race ...

Or in other words, that it would have taken a 93.5% turnout with all additional voters supporting Yes to make it a 50-50 race.
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