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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« on: August 29, 2014, 01:54:04 AM »

Unlike some Australians who needed to keep their mouths shut... I don't have a strong view on this.

But I think this goes down 55-45... my gut feel is that people who are undecided now and vote will likely side with the status quo.
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2014, 06:13:31 PM »

I'm still sticking with 54-46 No...
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2014, 01:50:12 AM »

The number of people with 'cheap-seats' views on this issue is remarkable.
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 03:26:31 AM »

Which would save the SNP from having to follow through on their promises.
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 12:44:46 AM »

Why are Scottish women so supportive of the "No" side?

Why would they be supportive of 'Yes'?
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 01:45:52 AM »

Why are Scottish women so supportive of the "No" side?

Women are more risk averse than men, that's a phenomenon you can find in all types of decisionmaking (from the financial markets to surgeon procedures and driving habits).

Independence is risky, the union feels safer - especially since women need the welfare state more than men, on average.



I don't know if it's women being less risk-adverse, but men perhaps connecting their 'Scottishness' to their masculinity.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 06:07:29 PM »

The three new polls tonight all show the same result:

ICM - NO 52%, YES 48%

Opinium - NO 52%, YES 48%

Survation - NO 52%, YES 48%

Glad I changed my prediction to 52,1% No.

It should be noted that a study has been done of referendum polling from across the world. The interesting thing is that the support for change is never underestimated in polling.

Considering there's a clump who remain undecided... if they turn out, and I think they will, they'll break heavily for No... I'm comfortable with my 54-46 No prediction Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 07:31:34 PM »


I don't plan on being disappointed?
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 07:50:55 PM »

While it's not his place to say it... Clinton's right.
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2014, 01:04:22 AM »

ICM: No 45, Yes 41
Survation: No 48, Yes 44
Opinium: No 47, Yes 43

So it's over.

Even if it is (which I think it is) - it'll make sure that next time, the Yes campaign will have more to campaign on besides sentiment... such as concrete plans for the transition and implementation of the post-UK systems. Including plans to retain English based businesses. Which is where they fell down spectacularly. Saying "eh, we'll sort it out later... " isn't good enough.

But considering how much ground they made up... it shows there's a decent appetite out there.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2014, 01:52:43 AM »

It appears the true sign of panic has emerged... allegations of vote-rigging, in advance of the vote being rigged, are starting to trickle out. I've been perusing hardcore 'Yes' forums and blogs.... it's a bit scary.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2014, 07:22:02 PM »

I'm disappointed. 538 has some coverage of this, but not forecast or projection.

Because the polling is still kind of screwed, there's no benchmarks... you can't really draw a forecast when you only have stand-alone data.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2014, 02:36:21 AM »

The fundamental thing is that no polling company has got a true hold on how this thing is going to turn out...

Which makes it, at the very least, an adventure in psephology.
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2014, 05:14:27 AM »

The Scots
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