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« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2012, 09:37:45 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2012, 09:42:20 PM »

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You've never had to help someone come off an addiction have you? Dealing this crap should be the same as in singapore - a death sentence. And if you believe that Obama's stopped using, I have another bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

Your obvious fetish against drug use (the death penalty? seriously?) need not be prescribed against the rest of the population.

You really believe that Obama still smokes weed or snorts coke?
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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2012, 10:17:07 PM »

Dealing and using are two very different things. I don't exactly agree with what he said, but I do believe that dealing drugs should carry a pretty huge penalty.
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« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2012, 10:34:04 PM »

Well, there's nothing wrong with marijuana. Unlike, say, tobacco or cocaine or heroine.
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« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2012, 11:24:19 PM »

So what's the relevance of the actions of Obama in college or the actions of Romney in High school? Neither of these present a vision of the future... And it adds to what Corey Booker said (After he backtracked or before he did) That the negative attack adds have really degraded our election process because it's more about presenting the opposition as a non viable alternative rather than presenting yourself as a person who has a bold plan for a country in a financial crisis.
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« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2012, 12:03:05 AM »

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You've never had to help someone come off an addiction have you? Dealing this crap should be the same as in singapore - a death sentence. And if you believe that Obama's stopped using, I have another bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Go on...
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« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2012, 12:13:03 AM »

Duh? That's completely subjective. Also, do me a favor. In about 30-40 years, when you're no longer in your teens, tell me you'd like to be judged on the way you acted as a kid. It's not exactly a novel idea that people can change over the course of 50 YEARS. That same logic should also apply to Barack Obama's drug abusing past. But since they wanted to bring up these things, let's bring them up.
No. It isn't subjective. Bullying someone else is far worse than taking a substance that only affects you.
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« Reply #32 on: May 27, 2012, 12:26:04 AM »

I thought a big liberal critique of social conservatism was that politicians shouldn't be allowed to "oppress" the population with a subjective moral code.

I find it kind of funny that people (liberals, no less) are trying to approach morality using black-and-white thinking.
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« Reply #33 on: May 27, 2012, 11:53:42 AM »

Its funny that these two candidates fit the stereotypes perfectly. 

Obama, the Liberal Democrat, is a pot-smoking, cocaine-snorting liberal who probably wants to legalize marijuana if possible. 

Romney, the traditionalist Republican, hates long haired artistic hippie kids. 

I think Americans will have a stark contrast with which to decide between.  Do they want a return to traditional family values?  Or do they want to move in a more liberal and progressive direction of drug legalization. 

The choice is obvious for most 420 friendly. 
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« Reply #34 on: May 27, 2012, 01:16:51 PM »

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Oh God. If that is the case, maybe THC damages the brain after all. Well, at least you said "most" rather than "all," so I can't just open the trap door on you, and watch you dangle for my reading pleasure. Darn!  Sad
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« Reply #35 on: May 27, 2012, 04:49:48 PM »
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For dealers? Yes.

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Absolutely. I've had to help friends get off it. It's not a laughing matter and it's a hell of a drug to quit.
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« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2012, 06:24:29 PM »

I think it's a shame that people can't just follow the law. I don't care how "harmless" drugs are. They're illegal, and I think it says a lot about your character if you're willing to cross that line.

The same applies to the bullying incident. But I don't think one is any better than the other.

Isn't the basis of a conservative ideology being that the law (government) is not inherently correct?
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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2012, 07:23:54 PM »

I think it's a shame that people can't just follow the law. I don't care how "harmless" drugs are. They're illegal, and I think it says a lot about your character if you're willing to cross that line.

The same applies to the bullying incident. But I don't think one is any better than the other.

Isn't the basis of a conservative ideology being that the law (government) is not inherently correct?

Only if the law negatively impacts the rich. If it punishes poors, they're all for it.
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« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2012, 08:34:08 PM »

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Absolutely. I've had to help friends get off it. It's not a laughing matter and it's a hell of a drug to quit.

Your friends are pathetic.
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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2012, 08:37:16 PM »

The problem for social conservatives here isn't the drug use, it's the stereotype of who is a drug-user. If you get what i'm tryna say.
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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2012, 10:20:11 PM »

This seems to have been a way of life for Barack in College.

He was plenty old enough to know better.
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« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2012, 12:48:26 PM »

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And people call me heartless.
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« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2012, 06:02:24 PM »

This seems to have been a way of life for Barack in College.

He was plenty old enough to know better.
And Romney was plenty old enough to know better than assault another person because he thought he was gay. And besides, bullying is unquestionably bad. Bullying is generally considered a little worse than pot, whose morality is disputed.
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« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2012, 08:23:37 PM »

I am not defending bullying by anybody in any sense, bullying of a gay person or any other prson, Romney says he does not remember the incident, but in any case, he should certainly have known better.
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« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2012, 10:38:36 PM »

Barry-O sounds like he was a hilariously awesome bro in his youth.
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