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BRTD
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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Reply #25 on:
May 26, 2012, 09:37:45 pm »
Quote from: adracman42 on May 26, 2012, 09:14:45 pm
Quote from: Lief on May 26, 2012, 06:53:21 pm
This improves my opinion of Obama considerably.
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TheDeadFlagBlues
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 26, 2012, 09:42:20 pm »
Quote from: Ben Kenobi on May 26, 2012, 08:56:11 pm
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I'd never want to associate myself with anyone who holds a moral compass that says drug use is worse than physically assaulting someone. Smoking weed and snorting coke during your adolescent years isn't a reflection of your values in the slightest. It shows that you're one out of millions who decides to use a mind-altering substance.
You've never had to help someone come off an addiction have you? Dealing this crap should be the same as in singapore - a death sentence. And if you believe that Obama's stopped using, I have another bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Your obvious fetish against drug use (the death penalty? seriously?) need not be prescribed against the rest of the population.
You really believe that Obama still smokes weed or snorts coke?
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Economic score: -6.26
Social score: -7.74
HagridOfTheDeep
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 26, 2012, 10:17:07 pm »
Dealing and using are two very different things. I don't exactly agree with what he said, but I do believe that dealing drugs should carry a pretty huge penalty.
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Vosem
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 26, 2012, 10:34:04 pm »
Well, there's nothing wrong with marijuana. Unlike, say, tobacco or cocaine or heroine.
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Quote from: Big Wiggly Style on April 13, 2013, 08:47:37 am
oh Vosem, you poor boy...
Quote from: Vosem on January 12, 2013, 05:05:23 pm
Economic score: +4.84
Social score: -6.52
At this rate, I'll lean left economically within a year or so
Purch
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 26, 2012, 11:24:19 pm »
So what's the relevance of the actions of Obama in college or the actions of Romney in High school? Neither of these present a vision of the future... And it adds to what Corey Booker said (After he backtracked or before he did) That the negative attack adds have really degraded our election process because it's more about presenting the opposition as a non viable alternative rather than presenting yourself as a person who has a bold plan for a country in a financial crisis.
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Those gravestones don't say democrat or republican those gravestones say American.
ModerateCoward
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 12:03:05 am »
Quote from: Ben Kenobi on May 26, 2012, 08:56:11 pm
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I'd never want to associate myself with anyone who holds a moral compass that says drug use is worse than physically assaulting someone. Smoking weed and snorting coke during your adolescent years isn't a reflection of your values in the slightest. It shows that you're one out of millions who decides to use a mind-altering substance.
You've never had to help someone come off an addiction have you? Dealing this crap should be the same as in singapore - a death sentence. And if you believe that Obama's stopped using, I have another bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
Go on...
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Senator Napoleon
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 12:13:03 am »
Quote from: bawlexus91 on May 26, 2012, 05:45:27 pm
Quote from: Fuzzybigfoot on May 26, 2012, 05:36:01 pm
Quote from: bawlexus91 on May 26, 2012, 05:32:38 pm
Quote from: jmfcst's fall shall not be in vain! on May 26, 2012, 05:29:06 pm
Smoking pot with friends is obviously worse than bullying a scrawny gay kid by holding him down and cutting his hair off.
Worse than past cocaine use?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/world/americas/24iht-dems.3272493.html
Yes. Duh.
Duh? That's completely subjective. Also, do me a favor. In about 30-40 years, when you're no longer in your teens, tell me you'd like to be judged on the way you acted as a kid. It's not exactly a novel idea that people can change over the course of 50 YEARS. That same logic should also apply to Barack Obama's drug abusing past. But since they wanted to bring up these things, let's bring them up.
No. It isn't subjective. Bullying someone else is far worse than taking a substance that only affects you.
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
HagridOfTheDeep
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 12:26:04 am »
I thought a big liberal critique of social conservatism was that politicians shouldn't be allowed to "oppress" the population with a subjective moral code.
I find it kind of funny that people (liberals, no less) are trying to approach morality using black-and-white thinking.
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milhouse24
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 11:53:42 am »
Its funny that these two candidates fit the stereotypes perfectly.
Obama, the Liberal Democrat, is a pot-smoking, cocaine-snorting liberal who probably wants to legalize marijuana if possible.
Romney, the traditionalist Republican, hates long haired artistic hippie kids.
I think Americans will have a stark contrast with which to decide between. Do they want a return to traditional family values? Or do they want to move in a more liberal and progressive direction of drug legalization.
The choice is obvious for most 420 friendly.
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Torie
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 01:16:51 pm »
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The choice is obvious for most 420 friendly.
Oh God. If that is the case, maybe THC damages the brain after all. Well, at least you said "most" rather than "all," so I can't just open the trap door on you, and watch you dangle for my reading pleasure. Darn!
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 04:49:48 pm »
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Your obvious fetish against drug use (the death penalty? seriously?) need not be prescribed against the rest of the population.
For dealers? Yes.
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You really believe that Obama still smokes weed or snorts coke?
Absolutely. I've had to help friends get off it. It's not a laughing matter and it's a hell of a drug to quit.
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 06:24:29 pm »
Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on May 26, 2012, 08:04:41 pm
I think it's a shame that people can't just follow the law. I don't care how "harmless" drugs are. They're illegal, and I think it says a lot about your character if you're willing to cross that line.
The same applies to the bullying incident. But I don't think one is any better than the other.
Isn't the basis of a conservative ideology being that the law (government) is not inherently correct?
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Lief
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 07:23:54 pm »
Quote from: King on May 27, 2012, 06:24:29 pm
Quote from: HagridOfTheDeep on May 26, 2012, 08:04:41 pm
I think it's a shame that people can't just follow the law. I don't care how "harmless" drugs are. They're illegal, and I think it says a lot about your character if you're willing to cross that line.
The same applies to the bullying incident. But I don't think one is any better than the other.
Isn't the basis of a conservative ideology being that the law (government) is not inherently correct?
Only if the law negatively impacts the rich. If it punishes poors, they're all for it.
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Tik
ComradeCarter
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 08:34:08 pm »
Quote from: Ben Kenobi on May 27, 2012, 04:49:48 pm
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Your obvious fetish against drug use (the death penalty? seriously?) need not be prescribed against the rest of the population.
For dealers? Yes.
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You really believe that Obama still smokes weed or snorts coke?
Absolutely. I've had to help friends get off it. It's not a laughing matter and it's a hell of a drug to quit.
Your friends are pathetic.
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change08
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 08:37:16 pm »
The problem for social conservatives here isn't the drug use, it's the stereotype of who is a drug-user. If you get what i'm tryna say.
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 27, 2012, 10:20:11 pm »
This seems to have been a way of life for Barack in College.
He was plenty old enough to know better.
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IDS Speaker Ben Kenobi
Ben Kenobi
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May 28, 2012, 12:48:26 pm »
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Your friends are pathetic
And people call me heartless.
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hawkeye59
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 29, 2012, 06:02:24 pm »
Quote from: Mitt Romney, Economic Heavyweight on May 27, 2012, 10:20:11 pm
This seems to have been a way of life for Barack in College.
He was plenty old enough to know better.
And Romney was plenty old enough to know better than assault another person because he thought he was gay. And besides, bullying is unquestionably bad. Bullying is generally considered a
little
worse than pot, whose morality is disputed.
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Re: ABC News: Obama and his pot-smoking "Choom Gang"
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May 29, 2012, 08:23:37 pm »
I am not defending bullying by anybody in any sense, bullying of a gay person or any other prson, Romney says he does not remember the incident, but in any case, he should certainly have known better.
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Bacon King
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May 29, 2012, 10:38:36 pm »
Barry-O sounds like he was a hilariously awesome bro in his youth.
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